Are you hoping that your best friend nord will come back if you leave this thread alive?

@Amp Mike Shanahan was fired because he refused to give up his position as General Manager of the team and to stay on as only the head coach. It was not just because of his failures to get the Broncos into the playoffs. He was great friends with the Broncos owner Pat Bowlen and had just built the biggest house in a suburb of the Denver metro area right next door to Pat Bowlen. Just had to clear that up.

No, it's not all his fault. It's not even just the defense. The offense is terrible too. With McGahee out, our best runner was pretty much... Telbow. And throwing the ball? Telbow has accuracy issues, yeah, but he's not being protected very well either. What was it, seven sacks again? Sure, some were his fault. Maybe even the majority. He's got a lot to learn, and he better learn fast. But for the rest, everything just fell apart around him before he had time to do anything. And then when he actualy threw the ball, the recievers would constantly drop it. And with the offense going three and out so many times, the defense is being run ragged trying to stop the other team. Really, the team is just all around awful.

@Vetteman94

Saying Telbow is a joke is harsh. He may not ever be a great QB, but I think he does have potential. If he can learn how to make better calls during plays, and increase his accuracy, he'd be pretty good. Right now though? Yeah, he does have a lot of room for improvement. The reason why he's so controversial is because half the world thinks he's the second coming of Christ, and the other half hates him because the first half loves him and they don't understand why. He's got a lot of unfair expectations placed on him from people expecting him to be the next John Elway. The lockout probably didn't help him improve any either.

And as for Orton and Quinn, I feel bad for them. They're getting screwed over because everyone wants Telbow. Orton may not be great, but he has shown that he can be pretty good (barring this season). When he was doing well last season, people didn't even want him to play. Which is a shame, because he was out there doing his best, and doing pretty darn well. (The fact that we did so horribly pretty much comes from McDaniels. He really screwed the team over.) That probably didn't make him feel very good. And Quinn just hasn't ever gotten a shot to play at all.

With the team seeming all around horrible do you still plan on watching tommorow and the rest of the season?

Yeah. I grew up with the glory days of the Broncos. I'm pretty sure I'll always be a Broncos fan, regardless of how bad they get. Just like I'll always be a Rockies fan, even though they've sucked for most of their existence. And an Aves fan, though they actually aren't doing horribly this season. Besides, I still have fun watching the games even if we lose.

I expect the Pack's passing game to shred the Chargers, in order for the controversy around Philip Rivers to continue for one more week. I get the feeling though that Chargers RBs may gash Green Bays, despite all their injuries. The Chargers should win next week and Rivers will probably make a turnaround barring an injury (which he is probably masking right now.)

Steelers are building momentum, and should beat the Ravens by 10 points. Bills will get a whoopin from the Jets;Fitzpatrick is coming down to earth and I feel sorry for anyone residing on Revis Island in this game. Jets D is too good for Bills O to stop.

Eagles vs. Bears should be a shootout....if it happened 3 weeks ago. The Eagles D seems to have tightened things up, and I only see Philly losing if there are turnovers on their end. Nnamdi Asomugha will make life difficult for Jay Cutler, so Matt Forte's performance is crucial.

I also see the Giants beating the Patriots in the upset of the Week. The hype will be concerning a Super Bowl rematch of sorts, and I feel the Pats will once again underestimate the Giants. In order to win, the Pats have to abuse the running game, but with their backfield being so confusing, I'm not sure they will use who they have effectively. Who knows the roles of each man back there (Faulk, Green-Ellis, Ridley, etc).

Yes the US daylight savings time changes on the first Sunday of every November.

Yep, I don't know if it changes by time zone or if they wait until the pacific time zone reaches midnight. I usually forget about it and miss things. If it changes by time zone, two of the four major US time zones have already changed. 

Hoping the raiders and Broncos are as physical and argumentative as last meeting because the Raiders got way more penalties as a result. It almost seemed like fights might break out, great stuff to watch. Raiders barely won the last game so I suspect the Broncs have a chance.

Also screw Oakland.

Haha, I see it as a battle of which team screws up the least. 

Funny this thread has so much Broncos talk as of late when they are a bad team.