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Kantor on 22 September 2011

I can guarantee you that most senior members of the American government want nothing more than to invade North Korea and smash the government to pieces.

Similarly, senior members of the Chinese government want to invade Taiwan and take back what they see as theirs.

The countries have conflicts of interest, and so for the most part, they try to give way such that a peaceful situation exists. China is constantly trying to broker peaceful settlements between the Koreas, because it does not want a war on its border. America wants Taiwan to remain a bastion of capitalism and democracy in East Asia. So, both countries get more or less what they want.



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Andrespetmonkey on 22 September 2011
Allfreedom99 said:
Marks said:
This is the sort of thing the US should be helping stop, not some bullshit "nation building" in Afghanistan or whatever they're still doing in the middle east.

It is interesting when you look at all the conflicts around the world. The U.S. and other U.N. countries were willing to get involved in the Lybia conflict while far worse things take place in North Korea. I think the main problem is the U.N. nations don't want to get involved in a situation like North Korea's due to the amount of resources, sacrifice, and potential threats that situation would pose.

I'm not trying to suggest we need to immediately go all out invasion to free those people, but the situation in N. Korea should make one question why we are so quick to get into conflicts such as Lybia but don't really want to even think about what could be done to help the people in N. Korea. This was the point of my thread to really show what actually goes on in that country and that pretty much nothing is being done about it, nor does it look like anything will in the near future.

The problem with North Korea is that the country has a huge army, and wmds. 



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Mr Khan on 22 September 2011

Kantor hit the nail on the head. China is what keeps North Korea alive. Not because China particularly likes North Korea (one of the wikileaks cables said as much), but they certainly don't want a militantly anti-communist neighbor, nor would want what would certainly be an American-assisted military campaign in their backyard

I can't imagine Russia would be too jazzed about us getting too close to their Vladivostok border either



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Allfreedom99 on 22 September 2011
Andrespetmonkey said:
Allfreedom99 said:
Marks said:
This is the sort of thing the US should be helping stop, not some bullshit "nation building" in Afghanistan or whatever they're still doing in the middle east.

It is interesting when you look at all the conflicts around the world. The U.S. and other U.N. countries were willing to get involved in the Lybia conflict while far worse things take place in North Korea. I think the main problem is the U.N. nations don't want to get involved in a situation like North Korea's due to the amount of resources, sacrifice, and potential threats that situation would pose.

I'm not trying to suggest we need to immediately go all out invasion to free those people, but the situation in N. Korea should make one question why we are so quick to get into conflicts such as Lybia but don't really want to even think about what could be done to help the people in N. Korea. This was the point of my thread to really show what actually goes on in that country and that pretty much nothing is being done about it, nor does it look like anything will in the near future.

The problem with North Korea is that the country has a huge army, and wmds. 

Ya their military size as well as nuclear abilities and also the uncertainty of how China would react are large deterants.




snakenobi on 22 September 2011

its up to people of that country

if they like to live that way then good



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Marks on 22 September 2011
Allfreedom99 said:
Marks said:
This is the sort of thing the US should be helping stop, not some bullshit "nation building" in Afghanistan or whatever they're still doing in the middle east.

It is interesting when you look at all the conflicts around the world. The U.S. and other U.N. countries were willing to get involved in the Lybia conflict while far worse things take place in North Korea. I think the main problem is the U.N. nations don't want to get involved in a situation like North Korea's due to the amount of resources, sacrifice, and potential threats that situation would pose.

I'm not trying to suggest we need to immediately go all out invasion to free those people, but the situation in N. Korea should make one question why we are so quick to get into conflicts such as Lybia but don't really want to even think about what could be done to help the people in N. Korea. This was the point of my thread to really show what actually goes on in that country and that pretty much nothing is being done about it, nor does it look like anything will in the near future.


Couldn't agree more man. Why is Libya so important but a couple hundred thousand people in death camps aren't? I guess it is just because going into Korea could start an all out world war while Liby is just a poor African nation.



NiKKoM on 23 September 2011
Marks said:
Allfreedom99 said:
Marks said:
This is the sort of thing the US should be helping stop, not some bullshit "nation building" in Afghanistan or whatever they're still doing in the middle east.

It is interesting when you look at all the conflicts around the world. The U.S. and other U.N. countries were willing to get involved in the Lybia conflict while far worse things take place in North Korea. I think the main problem is the U.N. nations don't want to get involved in a situation like North Korea's due to the amount of resources, sacrifice, and potential threats that situation would pose.

I'm not trying to suggest we need to immediately go all out invasion to free those people, but the situation in N. Korea should make one question why we are so quick to get into conflicts such as Lybia but don't really want to even think about what could be done to help the people in N. Korea. This was the point of my thread to really show what actually goes on in that country and that pretty much nothing is being done about it, nor does it look like anything will in the near future.


Couldn't agree more man. Why is Libya so important but a couple hundred thousand people in death camps aren't? I guess it is just because going into Korea could start an all out world war while Liby is just a poor African nation.

Libya is a rich nation, nr 58 of the world.. they have the 9th largest oil reserve in the world and nr 1 in africa which is also the only reason why the UN stepped in... stabilizing the oil flow is far more important then death camps in their eyes..



 

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Griffin on 23 September 2011
NiKKoM said:
Marks said:
Allfreedom99 said:
Marks said:
This is the sort of thing the US should be helping stop, not some bullshit "nation building" in Afghanistan or whatever they're still doing in the middle east.

It is interesting when you look at all the conflicts around the world. The U.S. and other U.N. countries were willing to get involved in the Lybia conflict while far worse things take place in North Korea. I think the main problem is the U.N. nations don't want to get involved in a situation like North Korea's due to the amount of resources, sacrifice, and potential threats that situation would pose.

I'm not trying to suggest we need to immediately go all out invasion to free those people, but the situation in N. Korea should make one question why we are so quick to get into conflicts such as Lybia but don't really want to even think about what could be done to help the people in N. Korea. This was the point of my thread to really show what actually goes on in that country and that pretty much nothing is being done about it, nor does it look like anything will in the near future.


Couldn't agree more man. Why is Libya so important but a couple hundred thousand people in death camps aren't? I guess it is just because going into Korea could start an all out world war while Liby is just a poor African nation.

Libya is a rich nation, nr 58 of the world.. they have the 9th largest oil reserve in the world and nr 1 in africa which is also the only reason why the UN stepped in... stabilizing the oil flow is far more important then death camps in their eyes..

You mean why Nato stepped in, which UN nation not part of Nato is doing anything?  And to suggest its to control oil seems wrong in my eyes.  The oil was already in their control with gaddafi running the country.  If Nato waited a few more days the rebels would have all been killed and the country would be at peace again.  Now they have a country with no military and no leader with a crazy amount of weapons and no idea where they will end up.