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Bruno Muñoz said:

Move is one of the biggest failures in this industry, it never had a remote chance. It's funny to read some old posts when Sony introduced it.

What went wrong? Do companies simple don't care and hate about this kind on control?, it is very disappointing. Even Nintendo is now abandoning motion controls as we've saw with their new console Wii U.

 

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Level1Death said:
Sony doesn't even care for Move so why should 3rd parties?


What a lot of gamers forget is that to add features to a game takes time and resources.  If the added feature will not net more sales to pay for the time and resource than developers and publishers make a decision.  Currently move probably isn't something that will add enough value to a remake game getting released on both HD consoles.  It's not lazy, it' business which gamers need to understand that games cost money to make and developers need to put their resources wisely or go over budget or over the estimated time to make the game.



I honestly dont care in the slightest. I bought Re4 for what it is - one of the best critically acclaimed, jaw dropping, revolutionary, breath taking games of the last decade. AND ITS IN HD !! Too bad about that platinum tho.



never played it (except the PC version, which is horrible even with the "graphic mods"), so I bought it (and it was $10 because I have PS+), sorry :P

I'll swear I'll make up for it by buying CV :P



the words above were backed by NUCLEAR WEAPONS!

I'm not a developer and I don't know the costs of making, re making or adding motion control support, but Capcom already did that with RE5 Gold edition they already know how to do it and is the control mapping how much could it cost? And also why no platinum trophy?



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d21lewis said:
Two things (can't quote): Somebody said Sony is supporting Move more than M$ is supporting Kinect. I say there's no way that's true. No way!

Cougarman said "Look at RE4 on the Wii". Not sure what he meant. From what I remember, RE on Wii sold almost a million compies. I can't check right now, though.


i meant to say RE4 Wii sold really good for a port and capcom was pleased with the sales but followed it up with two on-rails shooters instead of a proper resident evil game.



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Joelcool7 said:

Lets put it this way adding Move support would hurt Capcom and the games performance more then it would help.

Fact is the version was costing 20$ and adding Move support would cost a small fortune they would need to rework all the controls in the game. Then what, with Move how many more people are going to buy? Honestly Move isn't pushing the highest numbers its not a flop per say but it sure isn't a massive success.

As for everyone saying Sony doesn't care about Move. Well the fact that its still being supported in first party software and Sony is pushing third parties to support it, I'd have to disagree. Not to mention if you watched the recent Resistance 3 commercial with Kevin Butler the emphasis of the commercial was on the Move sharp shooters. In fact the game itself was being played on three small screens on the background while Kevin displayed his Move sharp shooter.

I think Sony is doing everything they can to keep people buying Move. I was at PAX and they had Move Resistance 3 there as well. Though I didn't play it they were definitely trying to promote it. Talking with the Resistance team showed that they were pretty psyched for Move's use in the game.

I think in all honesty Sony is doing more for Move then Nintendo has done for Motion+ yet you don't see all that many people complaining Motion+ isn't being used. Move is a hugely expensive peripheral that Sony hopes will sell till the end of the generation. They will support it as much as reasonably possible. If they are making a game that won't translate well to Move for example Twisted Metal they will not support Move. But if they are making a game suitable for the Move controller expect it to be supported.

What Capcom does is up to Capcom. The costs of including Move were likely not acceptable for a 20$ release, if it was maybe 39.99$ on disc version. Remember releasing RE4 on the HD twins was just a cash grab, Capcom turning as much profit as possible was the reason it came out. Anything that would reduce profits is going to be thought over hard.

Bruno Muñoz said:

Move is one of the biggest failures in this industry, it never had a remote chance. It's funny to read some old posts when Sony introduced it.

What went wrong? Do companies simple don't care and hate about this kind on control?, it is very disappointing. Even Nintendo is now abandoning motion controls as we've saw with their new console Wii U.


Umm no, Nintendo has made it abundantly clear that Wiimotes will remain the main control schematic for WiiU. You can only use a single WiiU controller to play games. So any game requiring or offering more then a single player experiance is still going to require Wiimote support. Also even single player games will still utalize Wiimotes.

Look at the golf tech demo they showed at E3. You put the controller on the ground and it displays the grass and ball, you line up your Wiimote with the ball on the ground and swipe your club (Wiimote) connects with the ball sending it soaring on screen. In fact a lot of the talk from Nintendo indicates that Wiimotes and the WiiU controller will complement each other and work together to offer the best of both worlds.

Nintendo isn't dropping motion controls they are diversifying the control system. No real change with Wii on Wii several Nintendo first party titles could be played with a GCN controller. Nintendo never truly replaced classic controls they just made a market for both. With WiiU Nintendo is hoping to merge both styles of control to create a unique experiance that you can't find on PS4/Nex-Box!

This is even more reason why it should have Move support, 20 dollars is horsecrap. it is a quick and dirty port of a game that was released 3 times already. BeyondGoodnEvil cost 10 bucks, half the price and that was a quick port as well. Most of the other HD revisions cost 15, hell most original games dont cost 20 on PSN. It cost a fortune?? No it does not, SOny already stated that it was not expensive, are you for real? they did it already with RE5 and they did it for the Wii, were those expensive?? All they had to do was copy those control schemes. I dont mind Capcom being lazy and greedy, but i do mind when they are being BOTH. You dont want to add Move support?? Fine, dont charge me 20 bucks, ya damn crooks.

And why do you think that is. I dont know why people think its that expensive. I bought the camera for 25 bucks new b4 the controller was even out and the controller is just 50, the DS3 is more expensive than that



d21lewis said:
Two things (can't quote): Somebody said Sony is supporting Move more than M$ is supporting Kinect. I say there's no way that's true. No way!

Cougarman said "Look at RE4 on the Wii". Not sure what he meant. From what I remember, RE on Wii sold almost a million compies. I can't check right now, though.


I said that, there have been more games released for Move than there are for Kinect. To me, MS throwing there Kinect around on Oprah, TV and wherever else, is not support. Games that is what support is for me, Move has more. If you can prove me otherwise, ill be happy to change my statement (I rather like Kinect)



oniyide said:
d21lewis said:
Two things (can't quote): Somebody said Sony is supporting Move more than M$ is supporting Kinect. I say there's no way that's true. No way!

Cougarman said "Look at RE4 on the Wii". Not sure what he meant. From what I remember, RE on Wii sold almost a million compies. I can't check right now, though.


I said that, there have been more games released for Move than there are for Kinect. To me, MS throwing there Kinect around on Oprah, TV and wherever else, is not support. Games that is what support is for me, Move has more. If you can prove me otherwise, ill be happy to change my statement (I rather like Kinect)

List of Kinect/Kinect Compatible games: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kinect_games

List of Move/Move Compatible games: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_compatible_with_PlayStation_Move

Kinect DESTROYS PS Move with an amazing 85 games to PS Move's pitiful 83 games. 

In your face!!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR5yqAWCSS0

 

 

(I'm just kidding.  I'm surprised the BOTH devices have such support, to be honest.).  Let's laugh at the Wii Motion Plus and put this whole thing behind us.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_that_support_Wii_MotionPlus



d21lewis said:
oniyide said:
d21lewis said:
Two things (can't quote): Somebody said Sony is supporting Move more than M$ is supporting Kinect. I say there's no way that's true. No way!

Cougarman said "Look at RE4 on the Wii". Not sure what he meant. From what I remember, RE on Wii sold almost a million compies. I can't check right now, though.


I said that, there have been more games released for Move than there are for Kinect. To me, MS throwing there Kinect around on Oprah, TV and wherever else, is not support. Games that is what support is for me, Move has more. If you can prove me otherwise, ill be happy to change my statement (I rather like Kinect)

List of Kinect/Kinect Compatible games: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kinect_games

List of Move/Move Compatible games: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_compatible_with_PlayStation_Move

Kinect DESTROYS PS Move with an amazing 85 games to PS Move's pitiful 83 games. 

In your face!!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR5yqAWCSS0

 

 

(I'm just kidding.  I'm surprised the BOTH devices have such support, to be honest.).  Let's laugh at the Wii Motion Plus and put this whole thing behind us.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_that_support_Wii_MotionPlus


Touche good sir, touche. BUT the Move list is missing JustDance 3 and Just Dance Kids 2 (check Amazon) and that Phineas & Ferb game that just came out is also Move compatible. so its 86-85, BUT you can probably find a few missing games on Kinect side, i dont have 360 so i would not know where to look. Either way they are both getting decent support, I didnt think Kinect had that much titles.

and yes lets laugh at Motion+ and then point at it when we realize it has been on the market longer and has a bigger install base, for shame Ninty!