Your comment is mud slinging, mine is perfectly fine, if wii proved either one of those it wasn't that it was a marathon.

Kinect isn't really considered a new console. It is a peripheral and no matter what anyone says it is nothing more. Also Kinect is the perfect example of a flop, it sold really well for the first few months but then died. Today Kinect is still selling but its lost its momentum.

Yes it is. Look at my above post, it's a peripheral to current owners, it's a new system to casuals Kinect IS a console to them. And no Kinect isn't a flop, you really don't know anything do you, the thing will explode again this christmas, that's easy enough to predict.


As for Rol's comment about Wii being a slow a steady race. Fact is Wii dominated not only at the beginning but reigned over the whole industry for years. Until last year Wii was still steadily outselling 360 and PS3 on a regular basis.Sure it didn't remain the dominant seller the whole generation, but I'd say it was fairly successful from start to finish.

Of course you would, but you would be wrong. The last few years of its life it will have been beaten by its two nearest rival and pushed into third place, and have hardly any SW come out for it. That isn't successful.

I don't think Nintendo expected any better!

Ok, we'll see how Kinect sells this Christmas, but I think you're wrong, and thats chiefly because NONE of the Kinect games this year have beaten Just Dance 2, and Zumba on 360 has been obliterated by Zumba Wii.I suppose we'll able to see how the black Wii Fit model sells too.

How Kinect has done March - now is irrelevent to how it'll do this xmas.

And to call Wii unsuccesful now is a pretty grand delusional statement when 9 of the top 20 of 2011 are Wii titles. Even if you subtract the bundles, you still have 1/4 of sales in 2011 going to a dead console.

I said unsuccessful in its later life, obviously it was huge for the first few years of its life.

Lastly, Nintendo have already announced their next console, alongside launching the 3DS, so its a given that most customers are either, A - more interested in the next console, B - interested in the new handheld, or C - buying Kinect with Dance Central. If the latter is the case, why isn't Zumba 360 selling?

Nope, we got a glimpse of consumers abandoning the Wii last summer, no new console was announced then. Wii bumped back during christmas but nowhere near the previous year.

Currently Kinect has almost no interesting games And games decide whether peripheral is success or not. You can create greatest peripheral in the world but it fails without interesting games. Casuals don't buy peripherals for future games, those games have to exist now.

They will, this holiday they bought into it last holiday, they will again this holiday.

I doubt Nintendo actually cares about third place finish, they care how much their company makes profit.

No, they clearly don't, otherwise they wouldn't have cut $80 off the 3DS to concentrate on marketshare, and drop 80% in forecasted profits.

When WiiU is released, Wii sales are not interesting anymore, not to Nintendo and not to media. If WiiU sells more than PS3 and 360 then Nintendo doesn't care about Wii sales. Of course, if WiiU sells that much, PS4 and 720 are going to be rushed to market in 2012 and PS3 and 360 have no change to catch Wii total sales anymore.

Btw. Market share is not very important for companies. Profit is much more important. If you reach 90% market share with product but fail to make profit, your product is a failure. While product with 10% market share could be considered huge success. For example, iPhone has never reached huge market share but Apple is definitely very happy with sales and especially profits. Apple probably won't even try getting much better market share because it would actually lower their profits.


Again, look above, they cared with the 3DS

I love how you're calling the kinect safe because it'll bump back during the holidays, but when it comes to the Wii it doesn't apply.

And that's even considering the kinect a console, which I don't agree with in the first place. Your logic seems one-sided.