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TeeNTee said:
Yea some consoles have better QUALITY and QUANTITY then others, so wouldnt it be worth spending money on those for the games?

Yes, it is, but that is not the point. The point is that the negative aspects of consoles are looked at, more than the postitive, especially by those that dislike them. All consoles can be enjoyed.

 



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a.l.e.x59 said: Guess what? Super Stardust is so good that it is coming to the Playstation 3, and will be called "Super Stardust HD."

I swear you must live in the past. This game has already come out.

Yes, it is, but that is not the point. The point is that the negative aspects of consoles are looked at, more than the postitive, especially by those that dislike them. All consoles can be enjoyed.

Some people enjoy having hot waxed poured all over their body. Just because something can be enjoyed doesn't mean other people should give a rats ass about it.



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

I wrote, "all consoles 'CAN' be enjoyed," not "all consoles 'SHOULD' be enjoyed." You don't have to play all the consoles. Just know that they all can be enjoyed, so you don't have to be a fan boy. Super Stardust HD came out? Okay, that's good. You are rude. By the way, I just got the FM Towns Marty, and it also kicks ass. Check out this sick boot screen:



One small problem: The games are so expensive!

Look at the price of Bubble Bobble for that system. The box art looks sick, but the price makes me sick. It sells for around $200.



All consoles do rock if you get enjoyment out of them. I advise people not to listen to fanboy haters and buy the consoles which will help them enjoy their gaming experiences.



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a.l.e.x59 said:
Grey Acumen said:
 

Saying that without games, all console would be equal is true, they would all be equally pointless wastes of space.

Now the real test to say if all console are equal would be to have the supposition that all consoles have the same game list. Would all consoles then be equal?

No. they wouldn't, each console would offer different advantages and disadvantages, in terms of the processing power and the graphical capability, as well as the input method, not to mention the relative price and other features of a console as well. Some consoles would easily be seen to be deficient in critical areas that would be worth hatred and ire, or at the very least, apathetic dismissal.

 


I said that without games, all consoles are equal. When it comes to games, some consoles have better game libraries than others, but all can be enjoyed. Sure, you will not want to buy all the consoles, but at least respect the ones that you do not buy, for hard work went into all the consoles that exist. Until you create a better console, than your word may be stronger, but even then, you should respect the other consoles, for what they are. I am getting sick of fan boys spreading hatred amongst certain consoles, because they may think that another is superior. As for price, it is only a barrier, that decreases in time.

 

and I said, that WITHOUT games, all consoles are junk. If consoles were all equal, then with the SAME GAME LIST, they would still all be equal. However they aren't. So therefor not all consoles can really be considered to be equal. 

 



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No! Not all consoles are equal! I wrote that they can all be enjoyed, but I never wrote that they are all equal! I wrote that, without games, they would be equal, but they all have games, so they are not. Okay? All consoles have at least one, good game, but they are not all equal. You falsly disagree with me, when you actually agree with me.



Fanboyism seems to be related more to fear of developer abandonment than anything else. It's just protecting your investment.



a.l.e.x59 said:
No! Not all consoles are equal! I wrote that they can all be enjoyed, but I never wrote that they are all equal! I wrote that, without games, they would be equal, but they all have games, so they are not. Okay? All consoles have at least one, good game, but they are not all equal. You falsly disagree with me, when you actually agree with me.

I'm actually refuting a very finely shaded difference of view here. For the most part, this is just devil's advocate type stuff. I'm arguing the other side of things because I feel there is another viewpoint, that while not as preferable, is still just as valid.

While I agree that all consoles will generally have SOME good game and features that make them worthwhile to play, that fails to consider ANY of the negative points or the price, as well as the relative value when compared to other systems.

So what I don't agree with you about, is the idea that there isn't any reason to hate ANY system at all. I would feel quite within reason to site bad design, and poor cost/feature management, that either create a severely underpowered machine, or a severely overpriced console as being points over which it would be reasonable to hate a console.

While you are bringing out a title or two for each system and looking to that as a reason to like a system, I can see that actually being a reason to hate that system. I like my console, because it has a lot fo games that I want to play, but then you show me a different console, that only has 1 or 2 games I want to play. If I wanted to play those games, I would have to purchase that console to play them, which is simply outside my budget range. If that console didn't exist, then those games that I like, exclusive to that console, might have had a chance of being on MY preffered console of choice instead.

Some consoles are just poorly designed as well. Like the one portable system that you had to remove the battery in order to change your game, or teh virtual boy which caused physical eye strain, or the game gear which suffered from poor battery life and a clunky design that were terrible for portable design, or even teh PSP, which still suffers from limited battery life. Even though these systems have good games and other good features, those good games now act as bait, drawing us in to try these consoles even though these problematic features will time and time again irk and aggrevate us.

Another point is when a console has become known for certain features, and your console of choice compares unfavorably in this category even though it is far better in other categories, such as how the Wii uses motion controls, but doesn't have heavy graphics or as much support in online. Even though it is beginning to implement more online features, people continue to compare it to Xbox Live. But by teh same token, 360 has been trying to develop casual games, but compared to Wii, is unable to compete in that line. Thus having another console means that your own console of choice is less likely to be able to broaden its own range of features.

not everyone can simply buy any console that happens to have a game or set of features they like. Often, having one console with a set of feauters, but not another makes us feel dissatisfied with both, because neither one implements both of the features you want. With all this in mind, there are plenty of reasons to pick one console to support, and then only devote ire towards the other competing consoles. Then of course, if you choose to put your support behind a console that isn't as successful as its competitors, you will of course lose the support of developers and see a much smaller selection of games, hence the investment of $200 - $600 that you made becomes wasted.

There are plenty of reasons to hate a different console, but one thing to keep in mind is that hating a console won't ACCOMPLISH anything. no company is going to go "Oh dear, Peter Wankoff in Assborough Hungary hates our console, I guess we'll just close up the factories and throw in the towel, we've as good as lost already"

So while I agree that there isn't any point to hating another console, there are plenty of reasons to do so. 



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My Prediction: Wii will be achieve 48% market share by the end of 2008, and will achieve 50% by the end of june of 09. Prediction Failed.

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What people don't understand is that sells and 3rd party support is never what makes the best system. What makes a system the best is having the best 1st party games, and having high quality hardware.