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Forums - Sony Discussion - *UPDATE* (See it in action)Play PS3 games through your Vita, and use the Vita as a PS3 controller. KIllzone 3 and LBP 2 OMG!!!!!!

PullusPardus said:
UncleScrooge said:
PullusPardus said:
UncleScrooge said:
PullusPardus said:
kowenicki said:
Mordred11 said:
Slimebeast said:
Why would I want to play a PS3 game on a tiny screen and lower image quality?

Maybe because you could do it anywhere?

You think?

I doubt that.  On the bus via 3G... no chance.

Why not?

Because the games are way (way!) too big

3G is what, 7.2mbits/s? Some PS3 game are 50GB in size - there is no chance to stream 50GB. Also, most 3G services are limited to 1GB per month. That's 25 months for a single layer blu-ray.

And you would need at least a 32GB card to dump a single PS3 game onto the Vita. And Sony won't allow that because that would enable easy piracy.


Wha? , Streaming =/= downloading, streaming doesn't take much space. have you tried OnLive?

It doesn't need much HDD space, that much I know.

All I said was you need to use your 3G to stream a game onto your Vita. And most 3G plans only cover up to 1GB of data per month at a speed of 7.2mbit/s. I simply can't see this working. Sorry if I'm misinformed here.

the 3G that i actually used is unlimited data for  540 KB/s (not MB) on two devices  believe it or not, it plays fine for the most part.


Yeah I really got confused between downloading and streaming in my post. Sorry for that. It just sounded really weird in my world of mental confusion



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UncleScrooge said:
PullusPardus said:
UncleScrooge said:
PullusPardus said:
UncleScrooge said:
PullusPardus said:
kowenicki said:
Mordred11 said:
Slimebeast said:
Why would I want to play a PS3 game on a tiny screen and lower image quality?

Maybe because you could do it anywhere?

You think?

I doubt that.  On the bus via 3G... no chance.

Why not?

Because the games are way (way!) too big

3G is what, 7.2mbits/s? Some PS3 game are 50GB in size - there is no chance to stream 50GB. Also, most 3G services are limited to 1GB per month. That's 25 months for a single layer blu-ray.

And you would need at least a 32GB card to dump a single PS3 game onto the Vita. And Sony won't allow that because that would enable easy piracy.


Wha? , Streaming =/= downloading, streaming doesn't take much space. have you tried OnLive?

It doesn't need much HDD space, that much I know.

All I said was you need to use your 3G to stream a game onto your Vita. And most 3G plans only cover up to 1GB of data per month at a speed of 7.2mbit/s. I simply can't see this working. Sorry if I'm misinformed here.

the 3G that i actually used is unlimited data for  540 KB/s (not MB) on two devices  believe it or not, it plays fine for the most part.


Yeah I really got confused between downloading and streaming in my post. Sorry for that. It just sounded really weird in my world of mental confusion

its okay



i believe sony been planning this feature ever since they make PSP able to remote play PS3 XMB contents, just that PSP can't really do much with it but now we have PSVITA... yes!!! loving it... ^^



kurasakiichimaru said:
UncleScrooge said:
PullusPardus said:
UncleScrooge said:
PullusPardus said:
kowenicki said:
Mordred11 said:
Slimebeast said:
Why would I want to play a PS3 game on a tiny screen and lower image quality?

Maybe because you could do it anywhere?

You think?

I doubt that.  On the bus via 3G... no chance.

Why not?

Because the games are way (way!) too big

3G is what, 7.2mbits/s? Some PS3 game are 50GB in size - there is no chance to stream 50GB. Also, most 3G services are limited to 1GB per month. That's 25 months for a single layer blu-ray.

And you would need at least a 32GB card to dump a single PS3 game onto the Vita. And Sony won't allow that because that would enable easy piracy.


Wha? , Streaming =/= downloading, streaming doesn't take much space. have you tried OnLive?

It doesn't need much HDD space, that much I know.

All I said was you need to use your 3G to stream a game onto your Vita. And most 3G plans only cover up to 1GB of data per month at a speed of 7.2mbit/s. I simply can't see this working. Sorry if I'm misinformed here.

There are ways to trick your 3G connection by lowering your internet speed which can prolong your streaming habits . Also, there are unlimited 3G plans btw.

If you lower your internet speed it will make the  streamed game a lot worse, thus defeating the purpose. Also, where I live, all 3G/4G data (except for one carrier) is capped.



can it be done wirelessly?



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teigaga said:
Mordred11 said:
Slimebeast said:
Why would I want to play a PS3 game on a tiny screen and lower image quality?

Maybe because you could do it anywhere?


Im pretty sure its confined to the house, its like the wii U. Your ps3 has to be on and your Vita has to be within resonable proximity of the system. It will great for when the Tv is unavailable, when you want to use headphones or for some games which dont really need a massive screen (pSN titles).

In terms of using the Vita as a control, i really think sony should push it. All 1st party titles going foward should have this feature. there are already a number of games which i think it will be extremely usefull for and at the top of the list is MAss Effect 3, skyrim and final fantasy XIII-2. I think maybe they should sell a cheap attachement which provides second trigger buttons because the touch panel isnt much of a substitute.


Well youd be wrong, even the PSP let me remote play PS1 games from work, so no reason at all the Vita wouldnt work over the internet as well, especially with its wireless N connection. 

I hope Nintendo change there minds and make Wii U work outside the house as well,  they dont want to be making regretable design deceisions like they have with the 3DS



UncleScrooge said:
PullusPardus said:
kowenicki said:
Mordred11 said:
Slimebeast said:
Why would I want to play a PS3 game on a tiny screen and lower image quality?

Maybe because you could do it anywhere?

You think?

I doubt that.  On the bus via 3G... no chance.

Why not?

Because the games are way (way!) too big

3G is what, 7.2mbits/s? Some PS3 game are 50GB in size - there is no chance to stream 50GB. Also, most 3G services are limited to 1GB per month. That's 25 months for a single layer blu-ray.

And you would need at least a 32GB card to dump a single PS3 game onto the Vita. And Sony won't allow that because that would enable easy piracy.


The only thing the Vita/PSP does during Remote Play is receive a video stream and send input commands over Wifi. The PS3 does all the rendering and processing of the input commands it receives, then sends the video stream back through the Wifi connection.

The system is pretty identical to the OnLive system; the only issues being latency due to distance (within 50 miles of your PS3 shouldn't be too bad) and latency due to encoding the video stream (on top of rendering the game world  and processing input commands).

If you have tested this with the PSP it obviously works but does have some lag; this lag may be less with the vita/PS3 (based on the videos I would say it is drastically better).



I wonder if you'd be able to do something like access a game's inventory on the Vita, while still playing the game on your PS3. I don't know if that would work (similar to the dual screen thing DS does) or not.

Otherwise, this sounds friggin' awesome!



can this also be done with PS2 games? as I own a 60 gb PS3



kowenicki said:
arcane_chaos said:
can this also be done with PS2 games? as I own a 60 gb PS3


doubtful.. even ps3 games will need a patch.


awww fiddlesticks..thanks though...