nightsurge said:
- If you wish to believe in the Big Bang Theory or other creation theories that don't rely on a devine being, explain to me where the very first object in the universe came from. They say the Big Bang started from a very small amount of elements that began moving extremely rapidly in a dense state. Well, what about where those elements came from? They had to come from somewhere, correct? Just a little philosophical conundrum.
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I always have LOVED being told this classical argument, because in the realm of things, it can never be logically solved based on what we know.
One may ask, where did this first material come from? There must have been a God to create this material.
I immediately follow, saying, if there MUST have been a God to create this material, then wouldn't it also be necessary for there to be something that created this God, and something that created whatever created God, etc.
The most common response I get is that nothing had to create God because God has simply always been. He was never created, and he has been in existence for all of time.
If it is indeed possible for something to just exist for all time, then why, I ask, can the original matter not have just existed for all time? Why can God exist for all time, but the original matter cannot exist for all time. Saying this is hypocritical.
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In the realm of things, I personally think we know SO little about our surroundings it is almost laughable. We honestly have absolutely no clue how the universe just started. We can make theories, but even these don't make sense when you really think about them. There are clearly some fundamentals that we simply are not aware of (perhaps we will never be aware of them). Perhaps time is infinite. Yes, it is hard to grasp this concept, but perhaps there isn't actually a beginning. Maybe beginnings are simply something we have made up that don't actually exist in the realm of things.