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makingmusic476 said:
Runa216 said:
makingmusic476 said:
We live in a universe in which everything has to come from something. Matter cannot come from nothing. The universe had to begin at some point, and whatever force put this machine in motion is obviously not bound by the physical laws of our universe. It wouldn't be inappropriate to label this force/deity/whatever God, I think.

Now, the nature of said God still remains a mystery to me. I identified myself as Roman Catholic up until a month or so ago, but inconsistencies in the Bible and the nature of God Catholicism (and to a degree Christianity in general) present don't make much sense to me.


So where did god get the materials? 


The whole "he's not bound by our physical laws" is basically a catch all to say he can do anything.  Where'd he get the materials?  He made 'em out of thin air!

The only other possibility is that some entity bound by our physical laws somehow triggered the big bang, which doesn't seem possible, given the same question you just asked.  Where'd the materials come from?  What was the trigger?

I think you have the right idea, but I will add to it. Creating something out of nothing would fall under an action God could perform because of his omnipotence. There is no logical contradication in saying that something can exist uncaused or that something can come from nothing (a point made by Bertrand Russell). This is one of the reasons why the cosmological argument is an a posteriori proof for God's existence. It requires somebody to accept that something cannot exist uncaused, but this truth is at worst a metaphysical assumption and at best an inductive inference.