The fact that I exist proves that there is a God: Troll_Whisperer the almighty.
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Dr.Grass said:
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Decent rule of thumb. A starting point of that is in the personal journey, you also realize you are one of the idiots on forums who posts one's own strong opinions about this and that. The you there is a case of "for anyone for whom the shoe fits, and if you don't believe it fits, it also confirm that the idiots on forums comment... unless one doesn't actually posts on forums".
gamelover2000 said:
Your right there is no explanation for that yet at the moment...
THE LAST THING HOWEVER, that would make me do... is believe in an invisible man living in the sky.
If your religious that is fine with me.. but don't sweet talk about how great it is to be religious.. |
God is not invisible, nor does he live in the sky.
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| pezus said: Reason 1: The tide comes in the tide goes out...never a miscommunication. Reason 2: The Bible Reason 3: He is watching us and tempting us into feeling he doesn't exist but he actually wants us to resist that temptation and embrace Him. |
You're just bullshitting, right?
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| pezus said: Reason 1: The tide comes in the tide goes out...never a miscommunication. Reason 2: The Bible Reason 3: He is watching us and tempting us into feeling he doesn't exist but he actually wants us to resist that temptation and embrace Him. |
God does not temp us. Satan does.
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| nightsurge said: I will ignore the slightly insulting OP's usage of "archaic" and other words that imply belief in a religion to be silly, old fashioned, or otherwise odd. I just have two things to say:
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I'll add to the conundrum: If those elements came from God, where did God come from?
It is much easier to accept that some elements were there forever than that there was a God that was there forever to create them. Why not skip that step?
Otherwise we can argue that God has a God who has a God who has a God...
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| SpartenOmega117 said: First Post Asking: Reply to Kantor: it doesn't matter how scientifc or not the quran, bible, etc. is. My main question is how was some so illterate able to produce it? He actually recited it and the only people who could write at the time wrote it. And no science was not as developed either. Arabia was pretty much at the bottom of the food chain in the day of Mohammad. Kind of like the dark ages of europe. Pretty much no one could have known and put the quran together in such an organized manner. What I am implying: Im just trying to imply that a random guy in the middle of nowhere back then who lived in society that had a polytheisitc religion (not even christianity or judaism) was able to recite something not only intelligient but organized and even referenced stuff from the bible, torah (in a soicety where almost no one followed a montheistic religion!) and was even able to finish and give better insight to some of the stories in thse books and even involve science that had not been discovered yet.... its kind of amazing. ANd to this day that random guy in the middle of nowhere managed to have over a billion of followers And thats why i follow the relgiion of islam. Because know scientific proof can really answer how such a random illiterate man in a middle of nowhere was able to create something powerful like the quran. It was such aandom and unnatural event. Kind of like how many scientists belive the big bang was just a random and unnatural event. There has to be some kind of magic here. Right? |
oh that's simple: pure unadulterated bullshit. Believing that "A man of no education did that" is like believing that the HArry Potter universe is real because hey, they said so in the books! That, and people knew about that shit LOOOONG before the Quaran was written. It's all just fairtyale hoo-hah, spicing up the story so it sounds more fantastic. Seriously, human history is littered with this kind of glorification, and a healthy dose of skepticism will get you much farther than blind faith. you believe that because you want to believe it, I can almost certainly assure you it didn't happen that way.
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To the OP I would simply ask you to explain to me what salt tastes like. Assuming I've never tasted something so common as salt, how would you explain to me how it tastes?
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| Runa216 said: alrighty, let's see if I can get this train back on track here. Original post was saying (in a nicer way) that if Religion wants to continue to have an influence on the world of politics, science, and society, it should be expected to withstand the same criticism and scrutiny that all other aspects of our world has. Instead of offering proper, intelligent insight to the issue, the thread has essentially turned into the precise thing I was hoping it wouldn't: Proving my point. Instead of offering philisophical insight to the origin of the universe or whatever, we have a lot of christians claiming that this criticism is somehow offensive and are trying to get the thread locked, and the rest are just trying to divert attention to disproving different scientific theories. In an odd way, this thread has further proven my point: Religion collapses under pressure and is incapable of standing up to rationality without reverting to "let's see who can scream the loudest" to determine what people believe. Also, for all the people arguing evolution, I have to facepalm. I may not know all the intricate details of evolution offhand, but even the slightest bit of research and proper scientific inquiry will prove to you that evolution is real. Anyone denying this fact is...well, they're not only ignorant but aggressively so. "Don't bother me with the facts, I've already made up my mind." |
Well this is a start, alittle better wording. Maybe you should edit your initial post to make it more welcoming and less flame bait. Also to my knowledge I'm the only one who reported this thread. Many users who agreed with me aren't Christian's either.
But on topic. Religion is already held to the same standards as everything else on earth.
As Kantor said science doesn't disprove religion or prove it. Many of the scientists who created the basic knowledge we follow today were Christian. As I said the majority of scientists around the globe believe in a God, saying that religion isn't held to the same standard as science is a fallacy. Science and religion go hand in hand.
Most people who believe in God, aren't complete moron's. Its not like they didn't think about the decision or research it. Its not like each and everyone of them is uneducated illiterates.
Their is alot of evidence to support the various faiths. Archeological and historical evidence over flows. Scientific evidence doesn't disprove it so people base their beliefs on what is proven and experiances they have had themselves.
Also again with this whole evolution crap. Evolution is a series of theories which started with Darwin's theory of evolution. Some of these theories hold water others do not. To stereotype and include all the theories as Evolution and say its fact is really niave.
I believe in Micro Evolution and not MacroEvolution. I believe that in some cases convergent evolution also occurs. In biology in University I learned about a dozen different evolution theories. Though I don't remember them all this knowledge really keeps me from saying I believe or don't believe in Evolution.
Which theories of evolution do you believe in? Why do you believe in these theories and how do these theories disprove the existance of God? You say Evolution is fact and such so which theories are fact and such?
Religion doesn't collapse under pressure. if it did it wouldn't be around anymore. The users here have responded to your questions fairly well infact even non-Christian users in this thread have provided insight into religious beliefs.
Your final quote about facts I'm not sure exactly who your qouting but I'd be happy to see these facts. I'm sure you know way more then my bio proffesor and all the teachers that have taught me science over the years. You probably also know more then the majority of scientists since they believe in God and you obviously have a better understanding of science then they do.
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Umos-Cmos said:
God does not temp us. Satan does. |
lol so therefore when i see some hot lady going down the street and i have feelings of lust for her or whatever its not me but satan right?
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