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Those are called taxes. Here, you "donate" 4 months worth of salary in those.



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Yes, its called paying taxes.



never, if people are too dumb to run a country, then they shouldn't be running it, I'd rather there be no government. you have no idea how many assholes are leeching off our tax money, they are just afraid of riots so they turn a blind eye and continue to make hard working citizens pay for complete fucking bull shit that they shouldn't be paying for.



btw, almost 8 billion people, we need to stop fucking helping people or we are all going to be fucked in the ass, the whole helping thing only makes sense if we had a much much lower population.



I wouldn't. I have my reasons.



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I DO donate to my country. It's called federal taxes.



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spurgeonryan said:
dahuman said:
btw, almost 8 billion people, we need to stop fucking helping people or we are all going to be fucked in the ass, the whole helping thing only makes sense if we had a much much lower population.


And we donate so much money to places like AFrica, and you never know where it goes? They are still suffering and I have been donating since I was 18 10 years ago! As for the government part, they are always going to be that way. Someone is always going to be corrupt. But we cannot just let our country or any country go down the toilet though because of a few politicians who are total ass****. Can we?


There is poverty all over the world, if they can't make it, they need to die until there is a balance in which they are able to survive, if they can't have that balance and die out all together, then that place is not meant for human society, the more you help people, the more they  rely on it and can't survive on their own, that's what happened to domesticated animals and assholes that survive on our taxes without having a job in the US. You'd be sorely mistaken if you think corruption is only with politicians or the government, it's among a lot of people who are just citizens or even non-citizens, many many people would do whatever it takes to get government aids to leech off hard working citizens like myself just so they can sit there and not do jack shit, surround themselves with church groupies and leech off even more of whatever they can get with the BS they sprout. You think donating money is making a difference? Yeah it's making a difference alright, it's fucking everybody in the wazzzoo in the long run, good work! There is a time, place, and different situations where self-righteousness is all good, this is not one of those times, in any place, in our situations, and it will get worse very very soon.

I'm also one of those people that pay a shit ton of money every year to the government btw, tax return? wtf is that? It's always tax pay out for me out the ass. Mother fuckers already take that much from me and throw them at shit that they shouldn't be throwing at and on shit that we don't need. The thread title is mind boggling to say the least. I literally see people out on the street, wearing normal clothes, not even bum ass shit, asking for money, which for whatever reason that dumb people decide that it's OK to give them money, and I see them driving away in their car when their begging shift is over! They prolly live off of government aid, while getting money from the street and driving  perfectly shinny cars without having to pay shit for tax, for fuck sake!



Dodece said:
I am one of those few that chooses to be charitable with my taxes I usually donate parts of my refund, to programs such as wildlife preservation. I also take fewer deductions then I should. So much so in fact the IRS contacted me about a deduction they found that they thought I had missed. When I did not request the adjustment they still sent me a check for it anyway. Dwell on that one for a little bit the government insisted on giving me more money. Yes I know nobody is going to take this advice, but do your own taxes from time to time. They aren't all that difficult, and the programs you can opt to donate to are genuinely worth while.

I want to add a few things. One the government doesn't run poorly. Well over ninety percent of the programs do in fact run fantastically well. You just never hear about them is all, and take their effectiveness for granted. I know many of you doubt that, because a lot of what they do you take on faith. You can have faith at the gas pump that what you pay for is what you will get. The same as at the grocery store. Not to mention all of the products that must list their weight on the package. This doesn't happen, because of altruism or honesty. Agencies are tasked to ensure that this happens, and they routinely inspect for adherence to the law. It is actually a reason that American goods are considered to be trustworthy globally. Doubt me check the gas pump for the inspection certificate the next time you fill up. Yeah there is a program taking place you didn't know about, but have complete faith in. So much for the theory that government is wasteful. Those agencies probably save you hundreds of dollars every year. For probably less then a dollar out of your taxes.

Speaking to wasteful government spending. The government is not some ephemeral entity. It is a reflection of us as a community. Those who run the government are elected by the people. So if you feel the government is just wasteful then it is your fault for electing poor managers, and no knee jerk reactions are not acting responsibly on your part. You should be involved at the local level promoting the elevation of politicians that have done a good job locally. Your justification for not being civic minded is you feel the government is wasteful, but wouldn't that wastefulness be a product of your not being civic minded in being more informed so as to pick more wisely. In a nutshell your laziness is not a excuse for not working towards the common good.

If your too lazy to be involved just fess up to it, and accept that you should probably pay more in to make up for your own short comings as a citizen. How the government runs is your responsibility. What is so convoluted with the logic that you should pay for your mistakes. If you put politicians into office that overspend. One you should make it a point to get involved, and two hey the government belongs to you. So you are responsible for picking up the tab.

I have said it before I will say it again. Bitching is easy putting forth some real effort is hard. Our government is not on another planet. Some of you would be utterly shocked by how available your public stewards are. Yes you can pick up the telephone and call your congressman, and gasp yes they will actually talk to you. The same is true in the case of your local politicians as well. It just makes me sad how little people care.

at least you get a refund lol........