I talk and agree about what you wrote about crime rates in the minorities: they shouldn't be higher than average, if the integration is good they should actually have the same or even lower (that's the case of regular immigrants that came looking for a job, so being by definition all people looking for a honest way to earn a living) crime rates than the majority. The digression about mafia bosses was because it makes me suspect that justice isn't so just if they receive milder penalties than members of minorities that committed a lot less homicides and other crimes than them, but are sentenced to death because they can't pay a good lawyer.

cool. spot on.

side note: gamescom looks like its starting. there seating everyone at the Sony confrence:http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/08/16/watch-the-gamescom-press-conference-live/

I know in New York most cops love to find someone that is on Probation/Parole so they can arrest them on a false charge to send them to jail. I mean if you're on Parole/Probation walking in a group larger then two people will get you stopped, questioned and maybe even searched in my city. This also goes for being in a vehicle...including a cab/taxi. Cops here are truly assholes and are usually bored, which is funny because when something actually happens they're the last on the scene.

bad argument

im not sure whether your joking or not, but jail's and prisions in 49 of the 50 states do have 80%-90% minorities in them. its more of a currupt system then then any one race so your statement is highly flaw'd.

After reading the other post (the one that said 80% minorities), I went to google and tried to find a graph to refute your statement.  I found so much confilicting information that I just said fuck it.  Some graphs, pie charts, and reports supported the claim.  Others totally contradicted it.  Most had whites at about 1/3 and black at 1/3 with Hispanics, Indians, and other making up the final third.  Still, considering that blacks are only 13-18% of the United States population, that was still pretty bad.  Another that I stumbled across said that 1 of every 10 blacks would go to jail and yet another showed that close to 75% of inmates on death row were white.

There's a lot of variables (shameless plug for Rocketpig's comic, Variables.  Check it out at www.selfcentent.com ) that we aren't taking into account in this thread and we probably won't take the time to sort things out.  It's not as black and white as we may think it is.

Many do. They get money for every prisoner from the government, and by selling the prisoner's manpower they earn even more (because the prisoners get little to no money for the work of course), so they acually earn twice per prisoner.

In 2009, it was revealed that two(!!!) american judges had received millions of dollars of bribe money from private jails for simply sentencing as many people as possible to jail for a long time. So it's easy to see how profitable this business must be for the corporations running private jails. By buying stocks from these corporations, actually anyone can profit from the practice of jailing as many people as possible.

Nowadays most big companies use prisoner work, for example: IBM, Boeing, Motorola, Microsoft, AT&T, Wireless, Texas Instrument, Dell, Compaq, Honeywell, Hewlett-Packard, Nortel, Lucent Technologies, 3Com, Intel, Northerm Telecom, TWA, Nordstrom, Revon, Macy's, Pierre Cardin, Target Stores. Callcenter agent for example is a very typical prisoner work as far as I know.

I just remember that the topic was for example portrayed in the great movie Shawshank Redemption that was set back in the 1950s. The prison warden was secretly making a fortune selling prisoner manpower, and the public even applauded him because he pretended that the real reason was that this way the anti-social criminals would give something back to society.

as far as i know by the vast majority the most of the people in jail in america are from drug violations and i believe the main drug in question here is marijuana... funny enough alcohol is an example of a dangerous substance that the over consumption of which causes several deaths per year and yet marijuana is considered by law to be more harmful

maybe the whites shouldn't have dragged other people from their homes to america to force them to do their work for them... and funny enough later on we get people like you who make comments like this...

have you finish: aw never mind i'll ask later lol.

i know somethings are missing from my statement, the facts, and the rest of the post in this thread so i think i'm done with this thread. i got to many friends here and could easily make enemies of noobs.

see ya in a thread with less of, well, this.

dito. i also agree with your other post.

now to leave this thread for good before i lose it. no need to get bannd i made a full yr.