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Viper1 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:

point taken but i'm not as optimistic you friend. atlease not anymore.

we will see wht happens when the time comes until then lets hope for the best.

Why not a multi-leveled approach then?  Top down and bottom up?   Get Paul in office and educate the youth.  

Besides, why do nothing and allow another moron into office who will make things much worse by the time we do get the right people in place to fix things?

You may think Paul would be reigned in by those that oppose him but he can at lease help stop the bleeding itself.  We let soemone else in office and they'll just cut off another foot.

Again, we do nothing, who can we blame?

agreed. i may like Ron but that doesn't mean he's the guy that can get the job done. we will see as the debate goes on into the election.



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MARCUSDJACKSON said:

agreed. i may like Ron but that doesn't mean he's the guy that can get the job done. we will see as the debate goes on into the election.

You got anybody else in mind that has the integrity and voting record to back up what he says?  

After Paul, I see a bunch of neo-cons and bandwagon riders. 



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So much fail in this OP it's not even funny. Just some constructive feedback here but VGchartz should really change hottopics threads to be video game related only. I don't come here to read misinformed posts about politics or other disciplines.



Rath said:
snakenobi said:

if i were an american

i would support neither parties but if you ask which way a country should be

a republic,just one problem that they need to re-invest some of the money and shape the society otherwise it will have problems one day.

 

Democracy is foolishness as it can't sustain a long term society.

its like  10 donkeys produce 100 children and then don't work for it and then tell others who work to pay for them and their lifestyle

or homosexuals demand everything should be allowed,who the hell is going to run the soceity when you are 70years old

America is a republic, the offices of state are not hereditary. It is also a democracy because the legislators are elected. The two are far from mutually exclusive terms.

 

As for the poll, I'd support Democrats over the Republicans. They're no less incompetent than the Republicans but I generally agree with their ideals a lot more - especially as far as social policy goes. They're actually sometimes pretty close to being a social democratic party (not that they'd ever admit it).

yeah i know us is republic,doesn't mean it will stay one

republic incorporates democracy as it elects but it does it in

democracy on the other is majority wins kind of thing



joesampson said:
So much fail in this OP it's not even funny. Just some constructive feedback here but VGchartz should really change hottopics threads to be video game related only. I don't come here to read misinformed posts about politics or other disciplines.

Click Filters at the top of the index and you will be able to change what forum boards are polled for the Hot Topics.



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joesampson said:
So much fail in this OP it's not even funny. Just some constructive feedback here but VGchartz should really change hottopics threads to be video game related only. I don't come here to read misinformed posts about politics or other disciplines.


That's my fucking opinion who are you to judge? Looks like you haven't read the new OP



joesampson said:
So much fail in this OP it's not even funny. Just some constructive feedback here but VGchartz should really change hottopics threads to be video game related only. I don't come here to read misinformed posts about politics or other disciplines.

I think you just failed even more than the thread did.  The filters so you don't see this kind of stuff is on top of the hot topic page, for goodness sake.



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Viper1 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:

agreed. i may like Ron but that doesn't mean he's the guy that can get the job done. we will see as the debate goes on into the election.

You got anybody else in mind that has the integrity and voting record to back up what he says?  

After Paul, I see a bunch of neo-cons and bandwagon riders. 

i'll say it like this

i'm going to follow the campaign trail and judge from there, and when its time to make decision. i will make it based on that.

i don't want any promises. i just want to know wht each candidate can and can't do then i'll no who'll get my vote. besides i live in LA.(the state) and its going to go republican anyway lol.



If I had to choose between these two great evils, I'd probably choose Democrats just because I think Republicans are the bigger evil. I'm under the impression they're trying to defend the rich and big companies even at the cost of others. That said, I don't think Democrats are much better either.



dsage01 said:

2. The Republican's treating the poor unfairly.

The Republican's have stated before they think that the poor are lazy despite them working 40 hours a week on average. Republicans have blamed the poor for this financial crysis that they are going through. Well what will you do when your monthly expenses outpace your income? And with hardly any finacial or social assisstance just make things worse. They have stated that the poor are subsidezed by welfare. WTF they don't even qualify for public assistance. Only the people who are severly injured or disables get SOME help. Not the ones who are working there ass off earning money?

I just thought I would mention something I mentioned in a past post.  If you have a husband and wife working 40 hours per week at a McDonalds for $8 an hour, they will make combined income of $32,000 per year.  This amount of money SO easily covers the necessary expenses it isn't even funny.  Cell phones are not necessary.  Satellite television is not necessary.  Video games are not necessary.  Going out to eat (AT ALL!!!) isn't necessary (this is a big one).  Going on expensive vacations is not necessary.  Gambling is not necessary.  SMOKING is defiantly not necessary.  I'm not trying to diss smokers, but if you did get addicted to it, we shouldn't be the ones that have to help you out when you have no money.  Oh, here's another big one.  If you are making $32,000 per year, you don't need to be living in a $300,000 house, a much smaller house or apartment is perfectly fine.  Lets see here...oh yea, cars.  You don't need a brand new, $20,000 car if you are only making $32,000 a year.  Make due with something cheaper.  Oh, here's another one, internet is not necessary.  If you live in a town with a library, you can easily go to the library to do anything necessary on the internet, such as look for a better job, or anything else.

I know life wouldn't necessary be quite the same without all of that stuff, but if you can't afford it, DON'T BUY IT.

So to ask what people will do when they have their expenses outpacing their income, then they should cut some of their expenses.  If a family of 2 is indeed working full time at $8 an hour,  there is absolutely no reason whatsoever why they shouldn't be able to afford living (and yes, with being given absolutely no money from the government).

So no offense to you, but to say people working their ass off should qualify for government handouts is absolute bullcrap.  (Note that above, I'm just saying that stuff isn't ESSENTIAL...you will likely still have plenty of money left over after the necessary things that you will be able to buy some of those things if you so wish, as well as put some money into the bank to save for the future).

Also, I hope you realize that the people working full time aren't the ones the Republicans are calling lazy.  The ones the Republicans are calling lazy are the ones that live on government handouts year after year, yet still don't go and get a fricking job like everybody else.

I just thought I would mention.  A lot of the less wealthy people that are whining probably have a bunch of those things in their life (not necessarily smoking, that is just there for those that do have it in their life).  Hell, a cell phone and satellite television alone are probably near $200 a month depending on your plan.  Going out to eat once a week at $25 each time (for 2 people) is another $100 a month.  Smoking 4 packs (between 2 people) of cigarettes per week (I'm not totally sure what a pack costs...$5?) is another $80 per month.  Internet is another $20-$50 a month depending on what kind of plan you have.  This is almost $400 a month being saved, and it doesn't even include the big things such as vacations, a house payment that is way too big, and a car payment that is way too big.

No offense to anybody here, but I REALLY don't feel sorry for anybody who has 2 people working full time in a house, but still can't make it in regards to money.



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