I could be wrong being that I haven`t followed the case closely, but I suspect that Anders Breivik was actually against Islamic Immigration and not neccessarily being against Muslims; and he attacked the people he held responsible for the immigration.

An Israeli person hating religion? Well, now I've seen everything. You shoud be happy that your race has the authority in the Holy Land, not hate people because f it. But I dont see what y post has anything to do with iether religion or imigration laws. I really dont wanna get into another religious war, becuse its just tiring, very tiring. Althou your view of the religion is very wrong.

And thats russian you posted there, not my language. In my sig it says ''sa verom u boga'' which is the opposite of what you posted

I can't tell if you deliberately missed my point or not...

The majority of right wing groups in Europe aren't protesting against links with the outside world in the same vein as Japan has, they are opposing immigration.  Japan has virtually no non-Japanese immigration.  Why on Earth would subjectivity be irrelevant in an immigration debate?  There are firm reasons for and against immigration.  It is subjective which side of the coin you come down on, but neither side is factually incorrect.

Аха-ха, "straightforward"... як жешь извилины в твоей башке, ёпсель-мопсель, я х*ею, откуда такие берутся?))

Rough translation. That's... an oversimplification to say the least.

Don't have anything really to add to the thread for now. Maybe later, but it sure is looking promising.

To my knowledge, the Albanians inhabited the region long before anyone else did, which is why they're such an ethnically unique people, with a language that doesn't even fall into any of the major language groups, and Wikipedia seems to back me up here now that i checked, though Wiki also sorta backs what you said, that they didn't emerge until around the 15th century as a distinct people, but were descended from the paleo-Balkan peoples, thus probably closely related to the Dorian Greeks, and native to the area long before the Slavs began to show up from out of the east. What would you say of the Hungarians, who probably inhabited Vojvodina before the Serbs took it away from them? The Slavs had to arrive out of somewhere, and there had to be a native people that they displaced in their time.

Your argument regarding infrastucture is fallacious, as if that argument were to hold, then Africa should just default back to Europe. Better-endowed peoples create infrastructure in less well-endowed areas (and thus end up owning that infrastructure that they made), but that has given them little claim to ownership historically

Your latter claim of Albanian atrocities is the most legitimate here. If these claims are true than Kosovo certainly shouldn't be getting a free ride from the West, and this tends to happens to countries we favor, where we look the other way on their sins in their ethnic disputes (my pet peeve has always been how we treat the Georgians like a bunch of saints, despite what they do to the Abkhazians/Ossetians, and don't even get me started on Israel), and should be amended. That is why i have maintained in my argument that Kosovo's right to freedom hinges on its ability to act responsibly as a free state, which includes protection of the Serbian minorities who still legitimately live there

What the hell have you been reading? The first mention of albanians wwas in 11th century, 500 years before Serbs came to Balkans. Albanians are are actually from Caucasus, as the state by the name of Albania can be found on the Caucasus montains in around 600 BC Albanian language actually has similaraties with some of the Chechen dialect langauge on Caucasus. Chechens and albanians share other similaraties as well. The caucasian Albanians (also called Alban, Aghban or Alpan) were a tribe of 26 tribes and ethnic groups, some of the were turkic descent while the majority were Cacasian tribes speaking caucasian langauges 
In 640's Arabs invaded Albania (the state on caucasus) and Jevanshir actually came to ally himself with former enemies the Sassadins. However, because weakend by thier war with Azerbajiains and Byzantium, Sassanian Iran quickly lost. Jevanshir returned back to Albania, preparing for war. Arabs invaded Albania, but it took thm half the century to conquer them. They did so, only by the beginning of the eight century, somewhere around in 705 AD, based on articles by Academician Z.I Lampol'skii and Great Soviet encyclopedia account. So for now, lets look at the 2 facts

1.Arabs invaded Albania (in Caucasus)

2.Year 705 AD

It is know that Arabs settled people from Caucasus in Sicilly (hence why so many Sicilian people have orgins and connections in todays Albania. it is also know that Maniakos used mercenaries from Sicilly to figh the Byzantines in 1042 AD. Now, the first time modern Albanians were mentioned WAS exaclty 11th century. This concides perfectly with the thoery that they came at Balkans at the 11th century Some. scholars say the year was the exact 1042, but the sources are weak for this claim. Now let's move to the genetics.

Genetic Examinations done in 2000 show that predominant haplotype group found in most Albanians is Eu9-Eu10-Eu11, which is found most commonly in Middle East and Cacausus, its basically non-existant to Eurpeans, with the exception of europeans that had contacts with Middle Easterners and Caucasians, such as southern italians and Greeks. As for the DNA analaysis, the Illyrian should be Eu7-l1b. The percent of l1b in Kosovo population  is 2.7% and 17% in Albania(altough I have lost the links to suport this claim as this was done in 2002)

The theory that Albanians were related to the Illyrians was first proposed  by a German historian in 1774. To propagate the connection, the comunist Albanian government adopted a policy ofartificially naming people  with ''Illyrian'' names. There is but a gap of several centuries between the last historical mention of Albanians (and the illyrian tribe of Albanoi) and the later mention of Albanians  and of the names Albanon and Arblanon  to indiate the region.

The place where Albanian language was formed is uncertain, but analyses have suggested that it was a mountainos region, rathern than in a plain seacost.While the words for plants and animals are entirely original, the names for fish and agricultural activities (such as ploughing) are borrowed from other languages. This is rather ridicilous when you considerd Illyria coverd most of Adriatic sea cost.

Your second parapgraph, you suggested first that Turks should reclaim whole Balkans and Greeks should return Byzantine. Despite the fact that both Byzantime and Ottomans gaind thier territory by conquest and violence. Both were later defeated and thier territory was takne. Kosvo however, not only was/ is the heart of serbian culture its one of the most important historic lands for Serbs, for it was in Kosovo Polje whee Serbian army clashed with ottomans and where the brave serbian knight Milosh Obelic killed Ottoman sultan Murad I. It was the oly time ver a sultan was killed by a Christian soldiers. Also, Kosovo was the 2nd most holliest site for christian Orthodoxy after Constantinople. The fun fact is Kosovo has been part of Serbia waaay before your contry was even founed by Europeans. Hell, Kosovo was almost part of serbia for longer time than your country was even know in the world.

Third paragraph, you act like western politicians have no agenda in Kosovo situation. What they seek to do, is create as many puppet states as they can which allows them to build military basess on its territory and try be very well prepared in case of war with Russia or China. They have been doing so for the past 50 years and Rusia tried to do simmilar things in Goergia as well. Now, since Serbia is a historical good friend and ally to Russia (but than again, we were allies and firends to the west too, before) we wouldnt allow NATO and other wester forces to build thier bases on our soil and as such, we were became an inconvineice for them, and thus thier enemy. Not to mention many wester countries such as Austria Switerland and Germany have a large population iof Albanian refugees and people and they want them returend to thier ''country'' as soon and as fast as possible

I would like to see your sourcing on those arguments regarding Albanian origin, as Wikipedia paints a very different picture (though the Wikipedia article could be subject to a pro-Albanian agenda, but that would bring this argument too far out of line). The wiki one highlights either a Thracian origin or, yes, an Illyrian one, but says that the philological evidence disproves the "Classical Albania" theory, because Albanian is loosely grouped with Indo-European and much less so with the Caucasus languages. Equally they make a different genetic argument

At the end of the day all these arguments are beside the point, which is ultimately that Kosovo was once part of your country. Was. Isn't now, and the people living there don't want it to be, and so long as these peoples do not prove to be a hostile and dangerous polity, the people living there have more right to do what they want than the people who don't live there anymore

Unless a Serbian majority was driven out of the area in recent decades by the KLA, but even then these questions can get murky, regarding which point in the past we have to draw the line between fiat claims and human rights of self-determination

Listen,I live with muslims,most of you don't.So,I know them and altough muslims in Bosnia are far more liberal than most muslims in the world,they are still muslims.So,when i say something about them,that is a result of long-time research and commitment to understanding them.

Like,how blind you must be and not realise what's going on in Europe?! It is silent invasion,my brothers.Silent invasion.Your grandchildren or grandgrandchildren will wake up in muslim UK,muslim Germany,Canada and what not.If you think I am over exaggerating,you should bloody wake up and see percentages and see what is most common name in UK these days.

But maybe,you welcome muslim Europe,that is perfectly OK.Just expect sharia in your life and expect to be street cleaners like christians in Egypt.And you would find more similarity to your nowadays life on Mars then in Islam-controlled country.

Hitler was certainly not a right wing conservative ...

Fascism is a movement based in extreme nationalism and patriotism where the individuals role is to serve the state. Here is a direct quote from Hitler:

"What matters is to emphasize the fundamental idea in my party's economic program clearly -- the idea of authority. I want the authority; I want everyone to keep the property he has acquired for himself according to the priniciple: benefit to the community precedes benefit to the individual. But the state should retain supervision and each property owner should consider himself appointed by the state. It is his duty not to use his property against the interests of others among his own people. This is the crucial matter. The Third Reich will always retain its right to control the owners of property."

Direct points from the policy manifesto or the Nazi's:

9. All citizens of the State shall be equal as regards rights and duties.

10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. The activities of the individual may not clash with the interests of the whole, but must proceed within the frame of the community and be for the general good.

Therefore we demand:

11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in life and property, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as a crime against the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits whether in assets or material.

13. We demand the nationalization of businesses which have been organized into cartels.

14. We demand that all the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out.

15. We demand extensive development of provision for old age.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle-class, the immediate communalization of department stores which will be rented cheaply to small businessmen, and that preference shall be given to small businessmen for provision of supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. We demand a land reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to confiscate from the owners without compensation any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

Fascism was sold as a third way between communism and capitalism, but at its core it only adopts enough capitalism to make it a more effective economy for waging war. The best approximation for what an ideal fascist economy would look like would be to look at state-run capitalism in China, which allows for far more economic and personal freedom than Nazi Germany ever did.

You're using the wrong spectrum. "Authoritarian" and "Left wing" are not considered the same, however, are based in two seperate dimensions. Fascism is indeed authoritarian, but to the degree of Nationalist interests. Therefore, it is known as a right-wing authoritarian ideology, as opposed to Socialism, which is a left-wing authoritarian ideology.