Sorry not sure i follow you.

Are you saying people who want a Vita are people not interested in it being a portable? Implying they are just after the games?

The 3ds has a gimmick behind it, it may not be great but it is a reason it is different. What is the Vita gimmick that i obviously have missed that will make it be worth £279? 

PSV is still a fantastic deal at $249, 3DS never was.

On the price, you must have miss-read my first paragraph where I described the "bait and switch" strategy that Sony could use to sell the PS Vita for a higher price to compensate for foreign exchange losses. Effectively they take the strategy of the PS3 and don't manufacture the lower end PS Vita and discontinue it because of low demand, and on the higher end system use the strategy of the PSP (in some regions like Canada) where it was only ever sold in a bundle so its actually price to consumers is $350. The net effect to the average user who wanted the $250 PS Vita is they would be forced to buy the 3G PS Vita with features they don't want that only comes bundled with a game they may not want for $350, which would almost be $200 more than the 3DS; which is why I said this would no longer be a viable strategy.

As for the Wii U controller ...

Touch screen color ebook readers at a similar resolution to the Wii U controller are already selling for under $100 from cheap chineese manufacturers, and products like this are often only carried by retailers because their margins are relatively high, so their manufacturing cost is probably substantially below $50. On top of this, besides the touch screen the most expensive components in these devices (CPUs, Memory, internal storage, etc.) will not be needed in the Wii U controller because it is a dumb terminal where all the processing is handled by the system. Beyond that, most of the other components in the Wii U controller have been around for years and are readily available in cheap toys and electronics that are often sold for less than $10. And finally, there is a full 12 months between now and the release of the Wii U and these (already commodity) components are likely going to see further price reductions.

While I have no doubts the Wii U controller will probably be the most expensive standard controller released for a system, and it may end up selling for between $80 and $100 if Nintendo wants to maintain the margin that has become typical for accessories, I think the people who believe the controller will lose Nintendo money if they sell it for less than $100 because it has some loose resemblance to a tablet PC are just demonstrating that they don't have a clue what they're talking about.

They always do $=€ so 3DS will be €170 in Europe. Vita's wifi model will be €249. Big difference, but not nearly twice as much, more like 45%.

And the price in pounds hasn't been specified, but it won't be 279 when the price in euros is 249, it will probably be £199 to £229. £229.99 is a good guess because that's the 3DS' official price now in the UK and PSV was meant to cost the same as 3DS elsewhere.

I also don't think the 3DS's price will be £120. As I said, today's official price is £229.99. Yes, most shops have discounts, but they'll probably stop doing that once the price comes down, because the reason to have a discount in the first place was that it was too expensive, which won't be a problem anymore. So the price should come to £149 (229-30%=153).

£149.99 to £229.99, that will probably be the difference. £70.

Poor Sony. I want to see if this drastically changes 3ds's sales before I crown it as sales victor for the gen.

 The Wifi only model is £230 (It has wifi, thats why its wifi only, was that hard to follow?...)

Infact, reread my post, reply to it with logic, reason and any sort of actual sense and I'll answer you - but that reply is just a waste of my time. 

 If you're too dumb to follow a 12 word sentense or something I'll sum it up for you. The 3DS cost £229 at launch - but retailers cut the price. The same will happen to the Vita, your point is moot.

even if that was the case how does $300 - $170 = $200 ? ( i don't get where the assumption of a bundled  game comes from the announced prices are $250 and $300 and whenever sony does bundle games the bundle usually retails for the same price as the original sku )

i don't see it being very likely at all that the $250 model will be in less demand anyway so the point on a whole didn't make much sense imo

in terms of the wii u controller we'll see

It's doomed!!

Nah, it just has less chance in outselling it

In that scenerio there exists practically no $250 PS-Vita, and the 3G PS-Vita is only sold for $350 bundled with a game ... Much like how the 20GB PS3 was practically never manufactured, and Canadian PSP fans were initially forced to buy for Gretzky Hockey in a bundle.

I don't see what is so difficult to understand about this hypothetical, and I grow tired of explaining it being that I believe the price cut of the 3DS makes it not an effective strategy for Sony to follow.

facepalm

so much doom and gloom for the psv..what else is new though..ninty fans especially cried doom and doa with 3ds reveal last year..people faught me with me saying ninty won't mess up with ninty and even saying there's a probability is a joke...

LOL

I even saw comments saying this price drop was their plan all along to mess with vita....I mean what a joke. people can be so blind sometimes that they don't want to see what's right there in front of them

and with psv ..sony clearly understands that they can't compete with smartphones etc..they have 'clearly' stated this. that is exactly why they will base their expectations on the device as such. they have stated that early on they just want to target the core gamer audiences which is exactly what should be done at that price point.

also unlike ninty they are NOT putting all their eggs in one basket with PSV....Sony as a whole are targeting different markets at the same time...people can argue all they want about this from the pov of a business strategy but in todays market that is how it should be. they are coming out with phones, tablets. ps suit etc etc to compete in the mobile gaming arena and I believe this is the right move. you absolutely can not compete well with game dedicated devices alone and this will come to bite ninty in the ass in the future as well. they underestimate the mobile market place.

Sony will do much better this time around since they have a clear plan..they will come out with a set of goals and will hit it because they won't expect beyond reasonable means unlike ninty. time will tell if this is true or not but seeing how they have handled the device so far I have some faith in them they will do just that.