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I am a huge rpg fanatic. Unfortunately having played so many of them I have grown a bit jaded.

Mediocre rpgs to me: Final Fantasy Series, Dragon Quest, Ultima, Might & Magic, Summoner, Suikoden, Kingdom Hearts, Elder Scrolls, and the list goes on and on. (Though some of these series did have high points.)

Good rpgs to me: Planescape: Torment, Gothic, Baldur's Gate (the PC games, not the PS2 games).

My all time favorite: Wizardry VIII

Every time I think about this game I want to load it up and play it again. Open world. Side quests. Many character classes and a variety of bonus characters (that have to be found and added to the party) make for good replayability.

It is a first person, party-based rpg, which is my favorite. Unfortunately nobody makes games like that anymore :(

Anyway, I will add Terranigma to my list of games to play some day.



My prediction (Jan 15th, 2008), total sales by end of 2008: Wii - 35 million X360 - 25 million PS3 - 21 million

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cdude1034 said:
Earthbound. Ness always wins.
I'd say Earthbound is the funniest RPG I have played.  I also love how the cops are all a-holes :)

 



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will play next: Paper Mario (N64), Golden Axe II (Sega), NiGHTS (Wii)

 

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ArtofAngels said:
Pffft, I bet you don't even know who Utada Hikaru is.

Don't know about him, but I do

 

She's the Japanese singer behind the masterpiece that is "Simple and Clean".  That song, combined with the ending, made me cry for the first time at a video game.



Oh you softie, her other songs are even more badass, "You will always be my first love"



Baff2 said:
I am a huge rpg fanatic. Unfortunately having played so many of them I have grown a bit jaded.

Mediocre rpgs to me: Final Fantasy Series, Dragon Quest, Ultima, Might & Magic, Summoner, Suikoden, Kingdom Hearts, Elder Scrolls, and the list goes on and on. (Though some of these series did have high points.)

Good rpgs to me: Planescape: Torment, Gothic, Baldur's Gate (the PC games, not the PS2 games).

My all time favorite: Wizardry VIII

Every time I think about this game I want to load it up and play it again. Open world. Side quests. Many character classes and a variety of bonus characters (that have to be found and added to the party) make for good replayability.

It is a first person, party-based rpg, which is my favorite. Unfortunately nobody makes games like that anymore :(

Anyway, I will add Terranigma to my list of games to play some day.

I can't believe you find the Ultima series mediocre.  I admit the last 2 games in the series were terrible but the first 7 games broke new ground with each release and Ultima 7 with all the addons was amazing.  I have a feeling you didn't play the games when they were released (especially Ultima 3, 4, and 5) otherwise your opinion of the series would likely be different.



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Legend11 said:

I can't believe you find the Ultima series mediocre.  I admit the last 2 games in the series were terrible but the first 7 games broke new ground with each release and Ultima 7 with all the addons was amazing.  I have a feeling you didn't play the games when they were released (especially Ultima 3, 4, and 5) otherwise your opinion of the series would likely be different.


I first started playing rpgs in 1982. I did play most of the Ultimas when they came out. I played III so much that I filled every space on the map with unopened chests just for kicks (and because there was nothing else to play). I agree that they broke new ground, and I did enjoy playing most of them, but none of them were great to me. Some of them were fairly good games (and I understand why many love them), but as the series went on they got more and more preachy.

My prediction (Jan 15th, 2008), total sales by end of 2008: Wii - 35 million X360 - 25 million PS3 - 21 million

ArtofAngels said:
You see all I am reading is a lot of modern games, this game has a unique feel that no matter how good your RPG you so love very much is, it can never match Terranigma.

This is a game I am so passionate about I will defend till the day I die, it's impossible to squeeze into your heads how good it really is, but I guess it's too late now, time has passed, and there was a time and a place for this game and unfortunately it's not 08, games have changed and the way your mind set perceives RPG's is different, I'm not saying it wouldn't measure up anymore, I'm just saying the pieces wont fit your conscience anymore.

 Quote, Terranigma is a magical experience . Period.

 And Utada is tied to Nintendo DS ( japanese marketing campaign ) .



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naznatips said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
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ClaudeLv250 said:
That game was absolute proof that a good combat system can't carry shitty characters and plot on its back.


Now, now. No need to get that harsh with Symphonia.

We already had this discussion in the other topic Claude. No need for me to emasculate you again. Or did you want to try and call Hiranobu Sakaguchi a second rate composer to Motoi Sakuraba again?

Emasculate = inventing your own arguments that don't make sense and then arguing against them like the other person said it? News to me.

And no, I never said Sakaguchi was a second rate composer to Motoi Sakuraba, considering that Sakaguchi doesn't actually compose. "Emasculating" again, I see.

 


I meant Nobuo Uematsu. I hear the name Sakaguchi so often recently I keep typing it on accident X_X

No, emasculating is when you got busted for criticizing a game based on false premises, tried to claim that Uematsu was a bad composer (and showed your complete lack of knowledge of his music), and when you criticized a game for bad characters then praised a game with much worse characters. Of course you would have to like awful characters (and voice acting in the most recent incarnation) to even tolerate the Star Ocean series so this should come as no surprise to me.

I also never understood why you dislike Symphonia when it's part of the ToP storyline. As is KoR when that's released.

Proving that Symphonia characters are bad = false premises? I shouldn't expect any less of a ridiculous argument from The Great Esmaculator who gives such defining arguments as Tales of the Abyss is bad because Luke is mean to people.
I never said Uematsu was a bad composer, you seem to be obsessed with creating these arguments. But since we're on the subject, Motoi Sakuraba, Yoko Shimomura, Koji Kondo, Michiko Naruke, and Masashi Hamauzu walk on Uematsu's overrated face on a daily basis. In fact, they're having a picnic on his face right now discussing what games they're composing for next, all of which are pretty much guaranteed to blow the mediocrity that is Uematsu's recent discography out of the water. Chew on that.

 



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Legend11 said:
Baff2 said:
I am a huge rpg fanatic. Unfortunately having played so many of them I have grown a bit jaded.

Mediocre rpgs to me: Final Fantasy Series, Dragon Quest, Ultima, Might & Magic, Summoner, Suikoden, Kingdom Hearts, Elder Scrolls, and the list goes on and on. (Though some of these series did have high points.)

Good rpgs to me: Planescape: Torment, Gothic, Baldur's Gate (the PC games, not the PS2 games).

My all time favorite: Wizardry VIII

Every time I think about this game I want to load it up and play it again. Open world. Side quests. Many character classes and a variety of bonus characters (that have to be found and added to the party) make for good replayability.

It is a first person, party-based rpg, which is my favorite. Unfortunately nobody makes games like that anymore :(

Anyway, I will add Terranigma to my list of games to play some day.

I can't believe you find the Ultima series mediocre. I admit the last 2 games in the series were terrible but the first 7 games broke new ground with each release and Ultima 7 with all the addons was amazing. I have a feeling you didn't play the games when they were released (especially Ultima 3, 4, and 5) otherwise your opinion of the series would likely be different.


 Ultima series is epic! I'm playing them nowadays (again). Great games, very very advanced and ahead of their time in all respects.



Just as always,I continue to believe that Final Fantasy VII is the best RPG that has ever existed.Now to see if its remake(I don't even care if it happens in one or in thirty years)will top it.