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Can a movement similar to fascism emerge in the US?

Yes 67 56.78%
 
No 21 17.80%
 
Not a "movement sim... 27 22.88%
 
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osamanobama said:

there you go again, instead of thinking, you regurgatate mindless, dronelike dribble.

how, in that entire film did you conjure up, anybody being racist, sexist, or homophobic. you make things up, you are close minded and bigoted against people with different views than you. if they are conservative they are sexist, racist, homphobic (though history shows that has also been liberals).

noone in that film showed any ill will to people that are different from them.

do you want to know what is racist, sexist, and homphobic. is affrimative action, institution speciffically targeting one of those groups, and have a desperate impact on the excluding groups.

Are insults your best arguments? 'Cause that certainly doesn't surprise me considering the type of person this is coming from.

What views are not accepted in universities, if not views that are considered hateful (sexism, racism, homophobia etc.)? What other people can feel "victimised" for their views, if not racists, misogynists and homophobes? Are universities promoting only one interpretation of a literature text? Are universitites only promoting view regarding some physics concept, and persecuting anyone who thinks differently? Were any of the "victims" from that documentary saying: "my physics proffesor discriminated against me due to my holding a different view than him regarding string theory"? No, they were not complaining about that.

Again, your views aren't singled out because they're "different", but because they're faulty. Any well argumented (non-hateful) view is accepted in an academic setting.



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osamanobama said:

at least i know what im talking about

Considering you get most of your info from Fox News, I doubt it.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

there you go again, instead of thinking, you regurgatate mindless, dronelike dribble.

how, in that entire film did you conjure up, anybody being racist, sexist, or homophobic. you make things up, you are close minded and bigoted against people with different views than you. if they are conservative they are sexist, racist, homphobic (though history shows that has also been liberals).

noone in that film showed any ill will to people that are different from them.

do you want to know what is racist, sexist, and homphobic. is affrimative action, institution speciffically targeting one of those groups, and have a desperate impact on the excluding groups.

Are insults your best arguments? 'Cause that certainly doesn't surprise me considering the type of person this is coming from.

What views are not accepted in universities, if not views that are considered hateful (sexism, racism, homophobia etc.)? What other people can feel "victimised" for their views, if not racists, misogynists and homophobes? Are universities promoting only one interpretation of a literature text? Are universitites only promoting view regarding some physics concept, and persecuting anyone who thinks differently? Were any of the "victims" from that documentary saying: "my physics proffesor discriminated against me due to my holding a different view than him regarding string theory"? No, they were not complaining about that.

Again, your views aren't singled out because they're "different", but because they're faulty. Any well argumented (non-hateful) view is accepted in an academic setting.

stop lying. just stop it. 

who in that film (did you even watch it) had hateful views? (other than the people who hated everything conservative, and non liberal).

you make things up. you cant accept any views other than yourself. you are close minded and bigoted. just like universities, you claim, well those people cant have differeing views, becuase they are wrong and i am right, so lets silence everyone else.

and the irony in the whole thing, is that its the liberals at the universities that are also being bigoted, racist and sexist.

so again, until you start experiencing our univerisities and politcial climate, stop acting like you know anything about it. you dont. you have made it very clear with your lies and misinformation.



sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

at least i know what im talking about

Considering you get most of your info from Fox News, I doubt it.


considering that you dont (as well as not living in the US). its evident that it is in fact you, that has no idea what they are talking about.

i guess you didnt feel like listening, to what i told you to heed... shame



sapphi_snake said:

What views are not accepted in universities, if not views that are considered hateful (sexism, racism, homophobia etc.)? What other people can feel "victimised" for their views, if not racists, misogynists and homophobes?

Anything that "offends" the wrong person, basically. There's a horrible arbitrariness to the whole thing. If you're seriously interested in what sort of things universities can get up to, you can check out thefire.org as they defend a lot of people whose rights have been squashed by ivory tower dickheads. For instance, a few years back a janitor (who was also a student) was fired from Purdue for reading during his lunch hour. It was a book about how some Notre Dame students fought the KKK back in the '20s, and a black woman who saw him reading the book was instantly offended and went and complained about racial harassment.  Even though the guy made clear to his bosses the nature of the book, it didn't mean a fucking thing. A black person was offended, and we can't have that. Only the ACLU and FIRE getting involved eventually cleared the guy's name.



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sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

there you go again, instead of thinking, you regurgatate mindless, dronelike dribble.

how, in that entire film did you conjure up, anybody being racist, sexist, or homophobic. you make things up, you are close minded and bigoted against people with different views than you. if they are conservative they are sexist, racist, homphobic (though history shows that has also been liberals).

noone in that film showed any ill will to people that are different from them.

do you want to know what is racist, sexist, and homphobic. is affrimative action, institution speciffically targeting one of those groups, and have a desperate impact on the excluding groups.

Are insults your best arguments? 'Cause that certainly doesn't surprise me considering the type of person this is coming from.

What views are not accepted in universities, if not views that are considered hateful (sexism, racism, homophobia etc.)? What other people can feel "victimised" for their views, if not racists, misogynists and homophobes? Are universities promoting only one interpretation of a literature text? Are universitites only promoting view regarding some physics concept, and persecuting anyone who thinks differently? Were any of the "victims" from that documentary saying: "my physics proffesor discriminated against me due to my holding a different view than him regarding string theory"? No, they were not complaining about that.

Again, your views aren't singled out because they're "different", but because they're faulty. Any well argumented (non-hateful) view is accepted in an academic setting.

An english literature professor I had went into a 15 minute bigoted rant against evangelical christians that would have been considered hate speech in Canada if it were any non-christian religion she was talking about. Don't make any assumptions that when progressive individuals talk about "Tolerance" that they really intend to tolerate anyone's beliefs or views other than the ones they arbitrarily decide are in need of protection. Much like how the most vocal anti-gay crusaders have a nasty habit of turning out to be homosexual, quite often the most vocal tollerance-crusaders turn out to have the most bigoted world view; and this can be explained by a psychological defence mechanism called reaction formation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaction_formation).



HappySqurriel said:
sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

there you go again, instead of thinking, you regurgatate mindless, dronelike dribble.

how, in that entire film did you conjure up, anybody being racist, sexist, or homophobic. you make things up, you are close minded and bigoted against people with different views than you. if they are conservative they are sexist, racist, homphobic (though history shows that has also been liberals).

noone in that film showed any ill will to people that are different from them.

do you want to know what is racist, sexist, and homphobic. is affrimative action, institution speciffically targeting one of those groups, and have a desperate impact on the excluding groups.

Are insults your best arguments? 'Cause that certainly doesn't surprise me considering the type of person this is coming from.

What views are not accepted in universities, if not views that are considered hateful (sexism, racism, homophobia etc.)? What other people can feel "victimised" for their views, if not racists, misogynists and homophobes? Are universities promoting only one interpretation of a literature text? Are universitites only promoting view regarding some physics concept, and persecuting anyone who thinks differently? Were any of the "victims" from that documentary saying: "my physics proffesor discriminated against me due to my holding a different view than him regarding string theory"? No, they were not complaining about that.

Again, your views aren't singled out because they're "different", but because they're faulty. Any well argumented (non-hateful) view is accepted in an academic setting.

An english literature professor I had went into a 15 minute bigoted rant against evangelical christians that would have been considered hate speech in Canada if it were any non-christian religion she was talking about. Don't make any assumptions that when progressive individuals talk about "Tolerance" that they really intend to tolerate anyone's beliefs or views other than the ones they arbitrarily decide are in need of protection. Much like how the most vocal anti-gay crusaders have a nasty habit of turning out to be homosexual, quite often the most vocal tollerance-crusaders turn out to have the most bigoted world view; and this can be explained by a psychological defence mechanism called reaction formation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaction_formation).

And my geography professor made death threats against Vietnam War protestors (retroactively, but still...)

Opinionated professors are nothing new, but in regards to viewpoints that they actually will not tolerate, there's another issue



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sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

there you go again, instead of thinking, you regurgatate mindless, dronelike dribble.

how, in that entire film did you conjure up, anybody being racist, sexist, or homophobic. you make things up, you are close minded and bigoted against people with different views than you. if they are conservative they are sexist, racist, homphobic (though history shows that has also been liberals).

noone in that film showed any ill will to people that are different from them.

do you want to know what is racist, sexist, and homphobic. is affrimative action, institution speciffically targeting one of those groups, and have a desperate impact on the excluding groups.

Are insults your best arguments? 'Cause that certainly doesn't surprise me considering the type of person this is coming from.

What views are not accepted in universities, if not views that are considered hateful (sexism, racism, homophobia etc.)? What other people can feel "victimised" for their views, if not racists, misogynists and homophobes? Are universities promoting only one interpretation of a literature text? Are universitites only promoting view regarding some physics concept, and persecuting anyone who thinks differently? Were any of the "victims" from that documentary saying: "my physics proffesor discriminated against me due to my holding a different view than him regarding string theory"? No, they were not complaining about that.

Again, your views aren't singled out because they're "different", but because they're faulty. Any well argumented (non-hateful) view is accepted in an academic setting.

also, i just realized your arguement is flawed in another huge way.

here in the US we have the 1st amendment, that allows for free speech. so even if someone didnt like another person with a different skin color, different genitalia, or different sexual preference. their right to do so is still guaranteed.

and to think universities are non biased and only want to stop hateful views, i just blissful ignorance.



badgenome said:
sapphi_snake said:

What views are not accepted in universities, if not views that are considered hateful (sexism, racism, homophobia etc.)? What other people can feel "victimised" for their views, if not racists, misogynists and homophobes?

Anything that "offends" the wrong person, basically. There's a horrible arbitrariness to the whole thing. If you're seriously interested in what sort of things universities can get up to, you can check out thefire.org as they defend a lot of people whose rights have been squashed by ivory tower dickheads. For instance, a few years back a janitor (who was also a student) was fired from Purdue for reading during his lunch hour. It was a book about how some Notre Dame students fought the KKK back in the '20s, and a black woman who saw him reading the book was instantly offended and went and complained about racial harassment.  Even though the guy made clear to his bosses the nature of the book, it didn't mean a fucking thing. A black person was offended, and we can't have that. Only the ACLU and FIRE getting involved eventually cleared the guy's name.

lol, i read about that. his book had KKK in the title, and he was white. so therefor he is a racist.

unfortunately i will have to be tolerated this insolence, this coming fall.

also did you watch, those video links i posted, they are very good at showing what happens in acedemia.

in one of the videos there is a story not dis-similar to the KKK book one. the kid was posting flyers of a book titled its okay to leave the platation, authored by a black guy no less, but of course some one got offended, and as we no its illegal to offend. so the guy nearly got expelled



sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:

Actually you'd be surprised.  Evolutionary Biology and Psychology largely back up conservative agendas.  Though ironically the teachers are just about top of the class when it comes to being liberals.

They tend to fall into the "Humans are horrible beings therefore we need heavy laws to control their actions" camp.  Ignoring the fact that polticians are in fact... human beings.  Meaning all you are doing is ensuring one group of horrible beings is in control over everyone, rather then having multiple competing horrible beings fighting vs each other, creating the most freedom and protection for all.

Outside which, you've really done nothing to argue your point.

Rather then make excuses for why the point is true...

which is largely irrelevent.

What's to argue regarding my point? My point was this:

I have a problem with that article. It was only a quantitative research on what the political belief and affiliations of university proffesors are. It was not a qualitative research that studied how these proffesors structure their classes, and whether their political beliefs influence what they teach.

There's really not much more to say.

Which you followed up by directly saying that some fields of study were directly related liberal to political belief.

That was just a rant, not meant as a serious argument.

Except you know... your rant is more accurate then you'd expect.

Marx for example is actually considered one of the big three founders of sociology.

You can't actually get through a social sciences degree without being taught a lot of socialism... as there are various theories and branches that rely pretty heavily on it.  Sociology is currently basically a case of "The Liberals vs the Socialists." (Liberals in the classic sense... and socialists in the sense of the left wing/statist/democrats.)

It's less about "So and so should be treated the same" or anything like that, but more the base and the ways they went about it.  However to do so you need to read there works directly.  Meaning direct exposure to said ideas... which in general is predudicial even with a teacher who isn't particularly left leaning with no counterweight arguement.

Entire disciplines specifically teach left leaning theory automatically... and most teachers are more likely to believe in said left wing ideas... seems pretty obvious.  If you actually think political affiliation doesn't effect how things are taught...

Why don't we look at another field where nuetrality is supposed to be the rule.  News reporting.  In the US I can name on one hand the number of reporters who's political affiliation i can't tell just by watching them.  Well actually... I can't name one.  Even Anderson Cooper you can tell though he's best at it.

The only field you could argue specifically teaches right wing theory is economics... and even then not all economics do so.