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Can a movement similar to fascism emerge in the US?

Yes 67 56.78%
 
No 21 17.80%
 
Not a "movement sim... 27 22.88%
 
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sapphi_snake on 19 July 2011
osamanobama said:

i wont be answering your whole post, as i already reponded about no religion.

but anyway, fro God's sake read our founding documents, it blatently says our rights our GOD given (yes from the Christian God). you can not seperate religion (speciffically christianity) from our founding and our founding fathers. they even had church services in congress

So your country is a theocracy then?



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osamanobama on 19 July 2011
sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

i wont be answering your whole post, as i already reponded about no religion.

but anyway, fro God's sake read our founding documents, it blatently says our rights our GOD given (yes from the Christian God). you can not seperate religion (speciffically christianity) from our founding and our founding fathers. they even had church services in congress

So your country is a theocracy then?

a republic.

but if you want to further a debate on the US government and its founding. it would be wise for you to have prior knowledge of anything about it.

but in case you dont, heed this. even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent



sapphi_snake on 19 July 2011
osamanobama said:

you sound like liberal proffessors.

and your claim that right wingers are racist is just laughable at best. need i remind you of woodrow wilson, Frankiln Roosevelt, LBJ.

stop acting like you know anything about our politics and educational system, you are very very ignorant on the subject. 

and for you to say the bolded is just despicable, and prooves how close minded and hypocritical liberals are. where did he give any indication, that he is some how racist, sexist, or homophobic. 

you act lack how all liberals act, like there cant be any possible reasonable way someone can have a different view than you, and therefor is wrong and must be shutdown.

just look up the organization F.I.R.E. over 85% of their cases regard conservatives being persecuted.

and for you to say that what universities do is akin to what families, and churches do is very disigenuous

Well, I'm sure that sounding like a liberal proffesor is better than sounding like an illiterate hillbilly. When people in that documentary say "they don't accept other views", they mean "they don't accept my racism, or sexism, or homophobia". 

you act lack how all liberals act, like there cant be any possible reasonable way someone can have a different view than you, and therefor is wrong and must be shutdown.

People like you love acting as if they're some sort of victims, because your hateful beliefs (unsupported by logic and strong arguments), aren't tolerated. It's not the fact that your views are "different" which makes your views be the source of criticism, but the fact that they're illogical and hateful. You think that an opinion should be respected due to the fact that... it's an opinion (as if that quality magically makes it valid), but if you want a view your opinions to hold any weight, you're gonna have to find actual arguments to support them, and stop acting like a victim (which is laughable, considering that you're part of the "ruling class").



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake on 19 July 2011
osamanobama said:
sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

i wont be answering your whole post, as i already reponded about no religion.

but anyway, fro God's sake read our founding documents, it blatently says our rights our GOD given (yes from the Christian God). you can not seperate religion (speciffically christianity) from our founding and our founding fathers. they even had church services in congress

So your country is a theocracy then?

a republic.

but if you want to further a debate on the US government and its founding. it would be wise for you to have prior knowledge of anything about it.

but in case you dont, heed this. even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent

Iran is a republic also. It's also a theocracy. If what you're saying is true (your rights come from "god", your constitution has roots in Christianity etc,), then your country is also a theocracy.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

osamanobama on 19 July 2011
sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

you sound like liberal proffessors.

and your claim that right wingers are racist is just laughable at best. need i remind you of woodrow wilson, Frankiln Roosevelt, LBJ.

stop acting like you know anything about our politics and educational system, you are very very ignorant on the subject. 

and for you to say the bolded is just despicable, and prooves how close minded and hypocritical liberals are. where did he give any indication, that he is some how racist, sexist, or homophobic. 

you act lack how all liberals act, like there cant be any possible reasonable way someone can have a different view than you, and therefor is wrong and must be shutdown.

just look up the organization F.I.R.E. over 85% of their cases regard conservatives being persecuted.

and for you to say that what universities do is akin to what families, and churches do is very disigenuous

Well, I'm sure that sounding like a liberal proffesor is better than sounding like an illiterate hillbilly. When people in that documentary say "they don't accept other views", they mean "they don't accept my racism, or sexism, or homophobia". 

you act lack how all liberals act, like there cant be any possible reasonable way someone can have a different view than you, and therefor is wrong and must be shutdown.

People like you love acting as if they're some sort of victims, because your hateful beliefs (unsupported by logic and strong arguments), aren't tolerated. It's not the fact that your views are "different" which makes your views be the source of criticism, but the fact that they're illogical and hateful. You think that an opinion should be respected due to the fact that... it's an opinion (as if that quality magically makes it valid), but if you want a view your opinions to hold any weight, you're gonna have to find actual arguments to support them, and stop acting like a victim (which is laughable, considering that you're part of the "ruling class").

there you go again, instead of thinking, you regurgatate mindless, dronelike dribble.

how, in that entire film did you conjure up, anybody being racist, sexist, or homophobic. you make things up, you are close minded and bigoted against people with different views than you. if they are conservative they are sexist, racist, homphobic (though history shows that has also been liberals).

noone in that film showed any ill will to people that are different from them.

do you want to know what is racist, sexist, and homphobic. is affrimative action, institution speciffically targeting one of those groups, and have a desperate impact on the excluding groups.



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osamanobama on 19 July 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:

Actually you'd be surprised.  Evolutionary Biology and Psychology largely back up conservative agendas.  Though ironically the teachers are just about top of the class when it comes to being liberals.

They tend to fall into the "Humans are horrible beings therefore we need heavy laws to control their actions" camp.  Ignoring the fact that polticians are in fact... human beings.  Meaning all you are doing is ensuring one group of horrible beings is in control over everyone, rather then having multiple competing horrible beings fighting vs each other, creating the most freedom and protection for all.

Outside which, you've really done nothing to argue your point.

Rather then make excuses for why the point is true...

which is largely irrelevent.

What's to argue regarding my point? My point was this:

I have a problem with that article. It was only a quantitative research on what the political belief and affiliations of university proffesors are. It was not a qualitative research that studied how these proffesors structure their classes, and whether their political beliefs influence what they teach.

There's really not much more to say.

Which you followed up by directly saying that some fields of study were directly related liberal to political belief.

That was just a rant, not meant as a serious argument.

dont worry no one takes you seriously



sapphi_snake on 19 July 2011
osamanobama said:
sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:

Actually you'd be surprised.  Evolutionary Biology and Psychology largely back up conservative agendas.  Though ironically the teachers are just about top of the class when it comes to being liberals.

They tend to fall into the "Humans are horrible beings therefore we need heavy laws to control their actions" camp.  Ignoring the fact that polticians are in fact... human beings.  Meaning all you are doing is ensuring one group of horrible beings is in control over everyone, rather then having multiple competing horrible beings fighting vs each other, creating the most freedom and protection for all.

Outside which, you've really done nothing to argue your point.

Rather then make excuses for why the point is true...

which is largely irrelevent.

What's to argue regarding my point? My point was this:

I have a problem with that article. It was only a quantitative research on what the political belief and affiliations of university proffesors are. It was not a qualitative research that studied how these proffesors structure their classes, and whether their political beliefs influence what they teach.

There's really not much more to say.

Which you followed up by directly saying that some fields of study were directly related liberal to political belief.

That was just a rant, not meant as a serious argument.

dont worry no one takes you seriously

With an username like yours, I doubt anyone takes you seriously.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

osamanobama on 19 July 2011
sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:
sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

i wont be answering your whole post, as i already reponded about no religion.

but anyway, fro God's sake read our founding documents, it blatently says our rights our GOD given (yes from the Christian God). you can not seperate religion (speciffically christianity) from our founding and our founding fathers. they even had church services in congress

So your country is a theocracy then?

a republic.

but if you want to further a debate on the US government and its founding. it would be wise for you to have prior knowledge of anything about it.

but in case you dont, heed this. even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent

Iran is a republic also. It's also a theocracy. If what you're saying is true (your rights come from "god", your constitution has roots in Christianity etc,), then your country is also a theocracy.

call it what you like. but Christianity and our founding/government go hand in hand. 



Mr Khan on 19 July 2011
sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:
sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

i wont be answering your whole post, as i already reponded about no religion.

but anyway, fro God's sake read our founding documents, it blatently says our rights our GOD given (yes from the Christian God). you can not seperate religion (speciffically christianity) from our founding and our founding fathers. they even had church services in congress

So your country is a theocracy then?

a republic.

but if you want to further a debate on the US government and its founding. it would be wise for you to have prior knowledge of anything about it.

but in case you dont, heed this. even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent

Iran is a republic also. It's also a theocracy. If what you're saying is true (your rights come from "god", your constitution has roots in Christianity etc,), then your country is also a theocracy.

Iran is nominally a constitutional theocracy, but i would define a theocracy as one where actual religious figures hold political power, as is the case in Iran and pretty much nowhere else in the world, through the Ayatollah Khameini

Most states have some sort of acknowledgement of a higher power as foundational to their statehood, except for either very young nations or countries that went Communist. I mean, the Japanese royal family still believes (though it is nominally illegal for them to do so) that they are descended from the sun goddess Amaterasu Omikami



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osamanobama on 19 July 2011
sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:
sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:

Actually you'd be surprised.  Evolutionary Biology and Psychology largely back up conservative agendas.  Though ironically the teachers are just about top of the class when it comes to being liberals.

They tend to fall into the "Humans are horrible beings therefore we need heavy laws to control their actions" camp.  Ignoring the fact that polticians are in fact... human beings.  Meaning all you are doing is ensuring one group of horrible beings is in control over everyone, rather then having multiple competing horrible beings fighting vs each other, creating the most freedom and protection for all.

Outside which, you've really done nothing to argue your point.

Rather then make excuses for why the point is true...

which is largely irrelevent.

What's to argue regarding my point? My point was this:

I have a problem with that article. It was only a quantitative research on what the political belief and affiliations of university proffesors are. It was not a qualitative research that studied how these proffesors structure their classes, and whether their political beliefs influence what they teach.

There's really not much more to say.

Which you followed up by directly saying that some fields of study were directly related liberal to political belief.

That was just a rant, not meant as a serious argument.

dont worry no one takes you seriously

With an username like yours, I doubt anyone takes you seriously.

at least i know what im talking about