@Garcian Smith (As for Killzone 2, who was it that said that, despite the pretty graphics, the gameplay is decidedly "last-gen"? (And even then, Crysis on a top-of-the-line machine still looks better...)


crysis looks better on a $4000 computer then killzone 2 on a $400 ps3. I must say that is impressive.

URNotE said: HappySqurriel said: URNotE said: delayed or not their lineup is still better than the 360's and wii you're forgetting all of the 3rd party games too which most are shared with the 360 and unnannounced games for this year.. Sony Pr has hinted at some big announcements coming our way... At this time last year there were a lot of people proclaiming that the PS3 had a better line-up for 2007 than the XBox 360 or Wii ... im not saying that the other 2 consoles lineups are bad im just saying sony has alot instore for this year and probably alot at stake ...

dude don't forget nintendo! they have amazing tricks up their sleeve just like sony! it's microsoft i'm worried about though! most of the multiplats on both 360 and ps3 have been on ps2 and will probably favor ps3 more! (gta4 is the ultimate example as gta3 has sold 12 million on ps2 alone!) thw wii has wiifit brawl mk wii no more heroes (which will sell at least 500,000 before the year is over! i bet so!) wiiware everybody's nintendo channel sega saturn on vc gameboy on vc there's also many more than what i just listed! (factors) next year will be (or shall i say this year!) shall be: nintendo vs. sony wii vs. ps3 brawl vs. mgs4 userbase vs. userbase Microsoft has done well, but can it topple the titans ps3 and wii in software or hardware? (can't beat wii in hardware but could touch ps3 and still get beat by it!) GET READY FOR ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONSOLE WARS OF VIDEO GAME HISTORY!!!!!!

kvh22000 said: @Garcian Smith (As for Killzone 2, who was it that said that, despite the pretty graphics, the gameplay is decidedly "last-gen"? (And even then, Crysis on a top-of-the-line machine still looks better...) crysis looks better on a $4000 computer then killzone 2 on a $400 ps3. I must say that is impressive.

 heres the problem, crysis might looks bette, but on that $4kcomputer it still has piss poor framerates unless you have tri-sli with 3 8800Ultras. 

ssj12 said: kvh22000 said: @Garcian Smith (As for Killzone 2, who was it that said that, despite the pretty graphics, the gameplay is decidedly "last-gen"? (And even then, Crysis on a top-of-the-line machine still looks better...) crysis looks better on a $4000 computer then killzone 2 on a $400 ps3. I must say that is impressive.  heres the problem, crysis might looks bette, but on that $4kcomputer it still has piss poor framerates unless you have tri-sli with 3 8800Ultras.

I'd like to know what a $4000 gaming computer would have if it didn't have dual/tri SLi Geforce 8800 cards in it ...

HappySqurriel said: ssj12 said: kvh22000 said: @Garcian Smith (As for Killzone 2, who was it that said that, despite the pretty graphics, the gameplay is decidedly "last-gen"? (And even then, Crysis on a top-of-the-line machine still looks better...) crysis looks better on a $4000 computer then killzone 2 on a $400 ps3. I must say that is impressive.  heres the problem, crysis might looks bette, but on that $4kcomputer it still has piss poor framerates unless you have tri-sli with 3 8800Ultras.  I'd like to know what a $4000 gaming computer would have if it didn't have dual/tri SLi Geforce 8800 cards in it ...

a brand name that jacks the price up $800 for the name ie Alienware, Dell, HP, Compact, Voodoo, etc.

No, its not as good as some proclaim...ITS BETTER!!!

ssj12 said: CAL4M1TY said: ssj12 said: As for your comment on Killzone 2, its apparent from previews that the game has a 99.9% chance of being better then all console FPSs released to date. Geez, that's a pretty big call to make. From a franchise that hasn't established itself as a system seller (let alone a consistently good one), I doubt it will be. Have you actually played the game yet? No? you've only seen video's of other people playing it? and those other people are either sony or the studio that makes it? really, so you must have great insight and are seeing something else that no one else is seeing to make a call like that. What you should have said is: "I am desperately hoping that KZ2 will at least be a dot on the radar of console FPSs" @OP: Sony's lineup is strong, it's not an all-conquering lineup (because they seem to give a lot of kudos to their new IP's and immediately dismiss the 360's) but it is a strong one none the less. Time will tell if it resonates with the gaming populace, but since it's only the begining of 08 it's too early to judge whether or not their lineup is truly great or not. I went to E3 does that count? And Killzone on the PSP was good, played it on my friends PSP for like 3 hours.

I was not aware that they allowed for public hands-on time with KZ2 at E3 last year (EDIT: forgot it's 08 already) , wait, it was only a game-play trailer? Like I said, you have yet to play the real thing, yes you can comment about the graphic, thats fine, but the BEST FPS is not just about pretty graphics. More important is how the first person controls handle, which no one knows yet because no one has played it. Then there's also the issue with AI, what's the point of claiming a game to be the best FPS if the AI isn't clever enough to react to you shooting it. Another aspect of claiming a title to be the best is if it brings something different to the table, you cannot legimately claim that there is anything new in KZ2.

About Killzone: Liberation, it was a good game, but one game doesn't make a quality franchise, that's never been the case in the history of gaming. Take for example God of War 2, so many people were sceptical about it before it's release, because they thought the developer would slump after the awesome-ness that was the first game. Then there's also the issue with history, of the 2 two killzone games released so far, the good one was not the FPS.

I'm not telling you to not be psyched for KZ2, but you have to put it into perspective, if you over hype it, it'll turn into another Heavenly Sword fiasco (a decent/good game that is portrayed as a crap game because it didn't live up to expectation/"hype")

Personally, I have to believe that Sony's lineup is overhyped. I think LBP, Final Fantasy and MGS4 (Exclusives) will all be incredible and those will be the heaviest hitters, reviews wise. Haze, Killzone etc. will definitely sell well, but at least one of them won't be as well received as people hope (coughlaircough). GTA4 and DMC will probably sell better on the 360 just because of a larger userbase, but who knows, only time will tell.

It is not as great as some proclaim.
It is better than others proclaim.
And someone out there probably has it pegged just right.
The problem is we don't yet know who any of these people are.

On topic

NO!!!