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Forums - Sales - Americas Pre-Order Chart 02nd July 2011

enrageorange said:
dsage01 said:
This preorder chart is the biggest BS I have seen!!!!!!!

Rage beating out RE3!! That is complete BS!

Halo CE never made the list as yet but Rage did????

BF3 beating out MW3 PS3!!! VGC needs to use some common sense now. If they think that the 360 version of BF3 can even get near the PS3 version in any part of the world they need to consult a doctor right now!

Skyrim beating out games like Uncharted 3, AC and it's getting more preorders than MW3 (PS3) sounds way too crazy!

Last time I checked Uncharted was bigger than AC 2 on 360. And then again why does it have more preorders than MW3(PS3)

Mass Effect 3 didn't make 3 million it died due to having bad legs I don't think that many people are interested in Mass Effect 3. Despite having good hype and critical acclaim Mass Effect 2 couldn't sell that well.

I can't believe the preorder chart could be this inaccurate. Modern Warfare 3 hardly getting preorders on the PS3 version seems to fake. I would think the PS3 version of MW3 could easily outsell Skyrim(360) and Battlefield 3(360) each by a ratio of 2:1. While Uncharted 3 will be able to outsell every game this holidays except Battlefield 3 (360) and Modern Warfare 3( both versions)



you need to calm down dude =)

Anyway I'll explain things very quickly.

VGChartz staff themselves have stated quite often that rpgs have much higher preorder to buy ratios than most other genres. That is why Skyrim and Mass Effect 3 have such high preorders. Their first week sales in Americas won't be much higher than the preorders.

Assassins Creed is much bigger than Uncharted in Americas. Remember these are going to be initial sales, not lifetime where uncharted will be able to start catching up due to not having sequels every year. Assassins Creed 2 on the 360 outsold uncharted 2 in americas even though a sequel came out one year later and multiconsole owners could have got the game for the ps3 as well. Yes AC is much bigger than Uncharted 2 in terms of sales.

MW3 for the ps3 is tracking ahead of black ops for the xbox 360 was with 19 weeks left. Its tracking seems perfectly fine if not overtracked. Than again it has seemed like people are more likely to preorder nowadays. The only game I do agree is odd is Battlefield 3 being so high for the 360. Then again maybe all their Call of Duty bashing is getting people's attention.

Okay well I get it for Sykrim and Mass Effect 2. I don't expect big sales for either of them anyways. Battlefield 3... no I think that's over tracked. But as for AC no in Americas thier both around the same. Infact the PS3 version keeps increasing and the 360 version keeps decreasing. AC brotherhood for 360 is at 2.23 million and Uncharted 2 is at 2.42 million. And AC 2 is belwo 3 million in Americas so...



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Man so many games over 100k



Machina said:
dsage01 said:
This preorder chart is the biggest BS I have seen!!!!!!!

Rage beating out RE3!! That is complete BS!

Halo CE never made the list as yet but Rage did????

BF3 beating out MW3 PS3!!! VGC needs to use some common sense now. If they think that the 360 version of BF3 can even get near the PS3 version in any part of the world they need to consult a doctor right now!

Skyrim beating out games like Uncharted 3, AC and it's getting more preorders than MW3 (PS3) sounds way too crazy!

Last time I checked Uncharted was bigger than AC 2 on 360. And then again why does it have more preorders than MW3(PS3)

Mass Effect 3 didn't make 3 million it died due to having bad legs I don't think that many people are interested in Mass Effect 3. Despite having good hype and critical acclaim Mass Effect 2 couldn't sell that well.

I can't believe the preorder chart could be this inaccurate. Modern Warfare 3 hardly getting preorders on the PS3 version seems to fake. I would think the PS3 version of MW3 could easily outsell Skyrim(360) and Battlefield 3(360) each by a ratio of 2:1. While Uncharted 3 will be able to outsell every game this holidays except Battlefield 3 (360) and Modern Warfare 3( both versions)


Some of your points I agree with (mostly those involving MW3 and Halo: CEmake). These I do not:

- Rage beating out Resistance 3 sounds very likely to me. Resistance is not a big seller at all, particularly in America, where Resistance 2 only had a 240k opening week. The comparison plays heavily in the 360's favour: shooters, in America. Seems reasonable for it to be ahead to me.

- Skyrim (360) could certainly come close to Uncharted 3 and Revelation launch weeks in Americas. It being ahead in pre-orders at this stage isn't that shocking at all.

- "Last time I checked Uncharted was bigger than AC 2 on 360." Barely worldwide and certainly NOT in America, which is what these pre-order figures are for (Assassin's Creed 2 (360) - 1.93, Uncharted 2 (PS3) - 1.11).

- "While Uncharted 3 will be able to outsell every game this holidays except Battlefield 3 (360) and Modern Warfare 3( both versions)." No, it won't. Again, this is JUST Americas, not worldwide. Some opening week comparisons:
Uncharted 2 - 417k
Brotherhood - 572k
Oblivion - 259k
Fallout 3 (more indicative for Skyrim I imagine) - 469k
Halo 3: ODST - 1.67 million


But mainly, I think the problem is you're assuming that pre-order figures this far out are a statement of what first week figures these games are going to pull, and that's either a misrepresentation or misunderstanding on your part.


Belive me Uncharted has gotten a lot bigger! Uncharted 2 started off with 417k and ended up with 2.42 million pretty in 1 and a half year. That's almost 6 times greater than it's launch week. And the preorder increase from UC2 to the launch week was 188%. The biggest increase in preorders in the 2009-2010 year. Uncharted is a growing series AC isn't. 



scottie said:
BenVTrigger said:
Vgchartz continueing to undertrack Halo CEA is disturbing.


If you want to be taken seriously, you have to provide a source indicating why you think a certain console/game is under/over tracked


Really scottie?  I have a proven track record on this site as being one of the most balanced posters around.  Its stimple, NA is by far Halo's biggest region, Halo CE is one of the most beloved of all shooter campaigns ever, its only $40, it comes with 7 multiplayer maps for the massive selling Halo Reach that you can ONLY get by buying Halo CEA, and it hasn't even broken the chart yet?  I see pre-order numbers daily, and have shown picture evidence of them on the site before.

The pre-order charts on Vgchartz have a proven history of not being nearly as accurate as other numbers on the site as well.  So you tell me, you honestly belive that games like Rage, Ghost Recon, and Deus Ex are outpreordering Halo in its strongest region?

Its simple the numbers aren't accurate and I stand by that statement.  So if you want to be taken seriously you won't call out members of the forum in a dissrespectful manner without something to back you up.  I love Vgchartz its by far my favorite gameing site, but the fact is their numbers are wrong sometimes, I'm not going to just blindly believe every number they put up by any means.



dsage01 said:


Belive me Uncharted has gotten a lot bigger! Uncharted 2 started off with 417k and ended up with 2.42 million pretty in 1 and a half year. That's almost 6 times greater than it's launch week. And the preorder increase from UC2 to the launch week was 188%. The biggest increase in preorders in the 2009-2010 year. Uncharted is a growing series AC isn't. 


Uncharted opened to 417k while ACB (X360) opened to 517k. That's a 100k difference. The fact that ACR (X360) has a 45k difference over UC3 is not surprising



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BenVTrigger said:
scottie said:
BenVTrigger said:
Vgchartz continueing to undertrack Halo CEA is disturbing.


If you want to be taken seriously, you have to provide a source indicating why you think a certain console/game is under/over tracked


Really scottie?  I have a proven track record on this site as being one of the most balanced posters around.  Its stimple, NA is by far Halo's biggest region, Halo CE is one of the most beloved of all shooter campaigns ever, its only $40, it comes with 7 multiplayer maps for the massive selling Halo Reach that you can ONLY get by buying Halo CEA, and it hasn't even broken the chart yet?  I see pre-order numbers daily, and have shown picture evidence of them on the site before.

The pre-order charts on Vgchartz have a proven history of not being nearly as accurate as other numbers on the site as well.  So you tell me, you honestly belive that games like Rage, Ghost Recon, and Deus Ex are outpreordering Halo in its strongest region?

Its simple the numbers aren't accurate and I stand by that statement.  So if you want to be taken seriously you won't call out members of the forum in a dissrespectful manner without something to back you up.  I love Vgchartz its by far my favorite gameing site, but the fact is their numbers are wrong sometimes, I'm not going to just blindly believe every number they put up by any means.


First of all I would like to point out I meant, if you wish to be taken seriously in this instance/with this particular point, not just if you wish to be taken seriously in general. I meant no offense, and if you have taken offense then I apologise.

 

I would then like to go on to say that I trust VGChartz's data over your gut feeling.

 

As for the comparison to Rage/Ghost Recon/Deus Ex

 

Halo CE is about 18 weeks out and added 12k this week

Rage is 14 weeks out and added 6 k

GR added 3k

D E is 8 weeks out added 4k

 

I would hardly describe that as any of those games "outpreordering Halo CE"

 

Have patience, Halo will hit the charts soon :)



BenVTrigger said:
Vgchartz continueing to undertrack Halo CEA is disturbing.

Battlefield 3 on 360 this year is going to be huge, by far the best selling in the franchises history on consoles.

other than that I don't have much to comment other than it looks like Resistance 3 is gonna flop and Twisted Metal still no where to be seen.


According to last weeks article twisted metal is at 36,000



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trunkswd said:

Americas Preorders Article is up. Click here to check it out.

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Since everyone is asking, could you let us know where resistance is at?



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rage and deus ex should be doing better. they both look great especially deus. I hope me3 does more than 5 million on 360, i know extremly unlikley especially when you see that me2 will only get a little over 3 million.



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

trunkswd said:
leatherhat said:
trunkswd said:

Americas Preorders Article is up. Click here to check it out.

Preview:

 


Since everyone is asking, could you let us know where resistance is at?

It's at 42,000 pre-orders.


Thanks man, appreciate it



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