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Gosh poor Micheal 5 getting in an argument with every one. No one really tries to understand what the guy is saying. Anyways Heavy Rain winning 41-28!! Now I have to admit this is getting really biased. So now I will do PS3 vs PS3 games and 360 vs 360 games (oh wait only one is going through). But almost everyone I know doesn't like Heavy Rain at all. Yet it still tends to crush Halo Reach which people claim (best FPS ever). I can grantee you the 41 people who voted Heavy Rain out of that half of the people haven't played the game but just cause they own a PS3 they vote for that game. Gosh this is really sad. I think maybe I should make a multiplat comparison ex: Assassin's Creed Brotherhood vs Red Dead Redemption so it will be a lot more fair



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Jay520 said:
Michael-5 said:-

You are right, this vote is like comparing Apples to Oranges, but that Halo Orange is a big Orange. Halo should out vote Heavy Rain, not because it's a better game (both are excellent), but because as a $60 purchase, you get more out of Halo. For the same reason I would expect Halo to out vote Alan Wake, and I would expect GT to do the same as Halo.

Just because a game lasts longer doesn't mean the game is better. If a person doesn't like the gameplay of Reach as much as Heavy Rain, then the length of Reach is irrelevant. A short game can very well be as satisfying as an extremely long game.

Take SOTC for example. It's one of my favorite games of all time, yet I could beat in about 9 hours. It was one of the most engaging and moving 9 hours I've ever spent in a video game, and apparantly people feel the same for Heavy Rain. Compare that to a game like GT5. It's okay. I'm not a huge fan of simulators, but I can bare them. Sure it's extremely long, you can sink hundreds of hours into, but that doesn't change the fact that the gameplay isn't as "fun" as a game like say, SOTC or even Heavy Rain. If someone asked me what game I liked better between GT5 and SOTC, I'm not going to say "GT5 because as $60 purchase, I get more out of GT5". No, that wouldn't make sense. GT5 is good and all, but SOTC was a much more fun and unique experince. Apparantly, people feel the same with Reach and Heavy Rain.

I'm not saying people don't like the gameplay of Reach, it's that they don't like it as much as Heavy Rain, which is purely subjective, and unaffected by the length a game.

Michael-5 said:-

Obviously some people not a fan of the FPS franchise should vote Heavy Rain, especially those who replayed the game multipler times. However this is the best selling HD exclusive were talking about here, it's should be outclassed by a game which sells a fifth as many units. Quality aside, when you're hungry, the big Orange will be more appealing then the small tasty Apple.

Sales don't make a game better at all. Halo selling five times as much as Heavy Rain isn't going to make Halo Reach a better game.

Take Demon's Souls for example. It's held by many as one of the best games of the generation, yet it only sold approx. 1.15m. On the other hand, COD MW2 sold over 20m units. If someone asked me what game I liked better between Demon's Souls and MW2, I'm not going to say "MW2 because it sold more, thus, outclassing Demon's Souls". No, that doesn't make any sense. If you ask people their opinions of a game, that's what you're going to get: their opinions of the game, regardless of how many units the game sold. Apparantly people feel Heavy Rain is the better game.

Taking a look at your sig, I could ask you why you have games like TLG and Xenoblade, which will likely have low sales, as opposed to a higher selling game like MW3. You'll say because you prefer TLG and Xenoblade regardless of their sales, which is completely understandable.


but you said if one game sold more then more ppl like it right???? so you should follow them get mw 2 instead of demon soul lol



kickazz113 said:


but you said if one game sold more then more ppl like it right???? so you should follow them get mw 2 instead of demon soul lol


yeah, but I was referring to the general public. Certain groups of people may differ in opinion. VGChartz is one of those groups.



dsage01 said:
Gosh poor Micheal 5 getting in an argument with every one. No one really tries to understand what the guy is saying. Anyways Heavy Rain winning 41-28!! Now I have to admit this is getting really biased. So now I will do PS3 vs PS3 games and 360 vs 360 games (oh wait only one is going through). But almost everyone I know doesn't like Heavy Rain at all. Yet it still tends to crush Halo Reach which people claim (best FPS ever). I can grantee you the 41 people who voted Heavy Rain out of that half of the people haven't played the game but just cause they own a PS3 they vote for that game. Gosh this is really sad. I think maybe I should make a multiplat comparison ex: Assassin's Creed Brotherhood vs Red Dead Redemption so it will be a lot more fair


I tried to understand what he's saying. Based off the post I quoted, he believes Halo Reach  should be winning because it sold 5 times as much as Heavy Rain, and because it lasts longer, which is wrong.

Yeah this site is pretty biased, I won't deny that.

If you do make a multiplat thread. Don't start off with RDR and ACB because one of those games would have to be eliminated first round, which would be shame.



Jay520 said:
dsage01 said:
Gosh poor Micheal 5 getting in an argument with every one. No one really tries to understand what the guy is saying. Anyways Heavy Rain winning 41-28!! Now I have to admit this is getting really biased. So now I will do PS3 vs PS3 games and 360 vs 360 games (oh wait only one is going through). But almost everyone I know doesn't like Heavy Rain at all. Yet it still tends to crush Halo Reach which people claim (best FPS ever). I can grantee you the 41 people who voted Heavy Rain out of that half of the people haven't played the game but just cause they own a PS3 they vote for that game. Gosh this is really sad. I think maybe I should make a multiplat comparison ex: Assassin's Creed Brotherhood vs Red Dead Redemption so it will be a lot more fair


I tried to understand what he's saying. Based off the post I quoted, he believes Halo Reach  should be winning because it sold 5 times as much as Heavy Rain, and because it lasts longer, which is wrong.

Yeah this site is pretty biased, I won't deny that.

If you do make a multiplat thread. Don't start off with RDR and ACB because one of those games would have to be eliminated first round, which would be shame.

i believe halo reach should win too becuase it has more fans



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kickazz113 said:

i believe halo reach should win too becuase it has more fans


If popularity decides if you like a game or not, then I feel sorry for you.



Jay520 said:
kickazz113 said:

i believe halo reach should win too becuase it has more fans


If popularity decides if you like a game or not, then I feel sorry for you.

as u said, ds sold more and it has greater popularity than xbox/ps3, so more ppl like it, ppl will vote for them..............



kickazz113 said:

as u said, ds sold more and it has greater popularity than xbox/ps3, so more ppl like it, ppl will vote for them..............


Yes, that means more people like it more. That doesn't mean it's actually better. There is no way to determine if it's better because it's all subjective. You and I probably like Halo more than Nintendogs even though Nintendogs outsold Halo. We're not wrong. We just happen to be less abundant than Nintendogs fans.

And it depends where you go. If you go to the general public, they will probably like the DS better. But if you ask hardcore gamers off the internet, then they will probably like the 360/PS3 more.



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kickazz113 said:
Michael-5 said:
kickazz113 said:
Michael-5 said:
kickazz113 said:
Michael-5 said:
 

Yea, but that's because PS3 was r*ping the 360 for the first half of 2010 with it's Slim model vs. 360's fat one. PS3 gained a lot of ground in the window from fall 2009-fall 2010, but since then PS3/360 sales have been pretty even. The fact that 360 caught up so many sales in fall 2010 is amazing on its own.

yet it still didnt outsell ps3, come on man i know you tried but ps3 is beating xbox YEARLY sale from 2009 to today

No garentee PS3 will beat 360 for 2011 year. The analysts to the link I gave you believe 2011 will be a draw.

If you look at yearly sales figures, of course 2009 and 2010 favor PS3. The Slim model vastly helped PS3 sales, but now that the PS3 Slim effect is over, PS3 and 360 are selling on par. This is what I am trying to explain to you.


mmmm no this year ps3 is 1 million ahead.........and yea did u read mine???? mine said ps3 will sale 15 million xbox  13 millon wii will drop to 10 million................arrr this is taking forever lol

For the last time. I said for the last 12 months of sales, PS3 and 360 sales are on par (360 is slightly more). This means August 2010 to Today.

If you continue to ignore what I'm saying, I can't debate with you.


dude last 12 is 2010 right?????? ps3 sold 1 million more again i said total year sale, ps3 beat it every years since 09

NO!! Last 12 months, August 2010 to August 2011. PS3 sold less in that timeframe.

As for 2011, Sony and MS both plan to sell 15 million consoles for their fisical years (Sony ends in March, MS ends in June), and many alalysts believe PS3 and 360 will sell on par for 2011. PS3 is ahead, but very few doubt that the 360 won't be the best selling console for the holidays.

I think you're just messing around now.



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