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trestres said:
Khuutra said:
trestres said:

Customers don't need to beg for anything, that's were your whole argument crumbles.


Reel it in, trestres, nobody is pretending that Nintendo's being reasonable about this. There is no argument to crumble, here.

And yes, you are still overreacting to the whole thing.

Yes, perhaps I'm overreacting, but the amount of anti-NoA people has grown considerably during the past year. Something tells me that I wasn't that off earlier in the gen.


Being right in your dissatisfaction now doesn't mean you were right in the same complaints two years ago, though. We were in a much, much better place two years ago. I mean, things being what they are now, I don't think  S&P2 would have been released stateside if it was made in 2011. That's a considerable difference.



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Acevil said:
trestres said:
Acevil said:
trestres said:
Ahhhhh.... It feels great to know that I was right for the last 3 years. When a lot of users of this forum were calling me a hater. And now join my line of thought. Welcome, even though you are YEARS late.

NoA is the worst thing that could happen to Nintendo, and it doesn't help that the higher people at NoJ are starting to show lunatic behaviours. Seriously, Nintendo has completely lost it.


At least a lot of the users are trying to get this game even now, and in the end they might have failed but really they tried and failed, I can't say how they are joining your line of thought.  

Personally I look to Nintendo of Europe for the solution. I already figured that one out even before Operation Rainfall (since I have no moral objections of buying a game, and using homebrew) sucks that Nintendo of America, doesn't want my money, so I will put it else where. 

@Torillian, I agree with you, Nintendo should have just said that statement on Sunday, or just not made that statement on Sunday, and waited few days. 

Customers don't need to beg for anything, that's were your whole argument crumbles.

Loyal customers show support, what you might call bugging, is simply campaign to bring over something namely when that campaign might showcase to a company that this project might be profitable (Since that is the biggest problem with these niche titles). You sounded more like loyal customer who complains non-stop but could have easily either left the company's loyality and started gaming somewhere else, but for some reason is still interested in the company for god knows what reason. The problem between other users and you, is that they still did something, besides stand there and do nothing. If you like something regardless if it is a company, you should try and make it better, if it goes to deaf ears you either continue, or walk away. 

 I simply vote with my dollar, and if Nintendo of America doesn't want any, I will give it to Nintendo of Europe, or Sony of America, or some third party company. Right now it really only seems one company is trying to get my loyality (Sony), but I am not set in stone with loyality.  


You are just now waking up because there's a couple of games you are interested in that are not gonna make it here. You did nothing before. I always tried to raise awareness, and even if I sounded too crazy, my intentions were those. Sometimes people need to wake up when it's still early, otherwise you see what happens. You lose your voice on things, NoA simply doesn't care about their longtime followers anymore. It was easy to see in what direction they were heading since early 2008.



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Khuutra said:
trestres said:
Khuutra said:
trestres said:

Customers don't need to beg for anything, that's were your whole argument crumbles.


Reel it in, trestres, nobody is pretending that Nintendo's being reasonable about this. There is no argument to crumble, here.

And yes, you are still overreacting to the whole thing.

Yes, perhaps I'm overreacting, but the amount of anti-NoA people has grown considerably during the past year. Something tells me that I wasn't that off earlier in the gen.


Being right in your dissatisfaction now doesn't mean you were right in the same complaints two years ago, though. We were in a much, much better place two years ago. I mean, things being what they are now, I don't think  S&P2 would have been released stateside if it was made in 2011. That's a considerable difference.

I literally got tired of making NoA vs NoJ release comparisons. Things appear to be worse now because some big games aren't making it here, but things were always this bad after 2007 ended. The Wii fit phenomena just hit NoA too hard in the head and they did a complete 180° turn on their market views. We have missed out so many games it's not even funny.



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Stakes: 1 week of avatar control for each one.

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trestres said:
Acevil said:
trestres said:
Acevil said:
trestres said:
Ahhhhh.... It feels great to know that I was right for the last 3 years. When a lot of users of this forum were calling me a hater. And now join my line of thought. Welcome, even though you are YEARS late.

NoA is the worst thing that could happen to Nintendo, and it doesn't help that the higher people at NoJ are starting to show lunatic behaviours. Seriously, Nintendo has completely lost it.


At least a lot of the users are trying to get this game even now, and in the end they might have failed but really they tried and failed, I can't say how they are joining your line of thought.  

Personally I look to Nintendo of Europe for the solution. I already figured that one out even before Operation Rainfall (since I have no moral objections of buying a game, and using homebrew) sucks that Nintendo of America, doesn't want my money, so I will put it else where. 

@Torillian, I agree with you, Nintendo should have just said that statement on Sunday, or just not made that statement on Sunday, and waited few days. 

Customers don't need to beg for anything, that's were your whole argument crumbles.

Loyal customers show support, what you might call bugging, is simply campaign to bring over something namely when that campaign might showcase to a company that this project might be profitable (Since that is the biggest problem with these niche titles). You sounded more like loyal customer who complains non-stop but could have easily either left the company's loyality and started gaming somewhere else, but for some reason is still interested in the company for god knows what reason. The problem between other users and you, is that they still did something, besides stand there and do nothing. If you like something regardless if it is a company, you should try and make it better, if it goes to deaf ears you either continue, or walk away. 

 I simply vote with my dollar, and if Nintendo of America doesn't want any, I will give it to Nintendo of Europe, or Sony of America, or some third party company. Right now it really only seems one company is trying to get my loyality (Sony), but I am not set in stone with loyality.  


You are just now waking up because there's a couple of games you are interested in that are not gonna make it here. You did nothing before. I always tried to raise awareness, and even if I sounded too crazy, my intentions were those. Sometimes people need to wake up when it's still early, otherwise you see what happens. You lose your voice on things, NoA simply doesn't care about their longtime followers anymore. It was easy to see in what direction they were heading since early 2008.

I think it is two sides of the same coin with Nintendo of America (always has been with this organization), on one side they bring over titles like Professor Layton, push titles like Dragon Quest IX and Monster Hunter, on the other side you have lack of publishing for other key titles that wouldn't be that hard to publish (such as xenoblade among other titles).  However if you knew my favorite third party company (more so franchise) and their effort in localization, you would know I am use to this by now, and I developed a pattern a simple policy of voting with my dollar.   



 

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I have to say I'm happy Nintendo fans are lambasting the company for this. I think people like give Nintendo an aura of invincibility sometimes, and it is unfounded. They're great, but no one is perfect. That said, localization might be the area where they are the most deficient. I mean, come on, not every game has to be a ten million seller, a reward for the gamers after their support would be nice. Uncool guys.



trestres said:

I literally got tired of making NoA vs NoJ release comparisons. Things appear to be worse now because some big games aren't making it here, but things were always this bad after 2007 ended. The Wii fit phenomena just hit NoA too hard in the head and they did a complete 180° turn on their market views. We have missed out so many games it's not even funny.

This is an interesting point. If true, it means their philosophy with Wii U will be to let third parties carry most of the weight when it comes to 'hardcore' releases, otherwise they'd have no reason to announce the thing. It's not like dual analog and cutting edge graphics are system selling features for the Wii Fit crowd...

Rather it seems Nintendo will offer some new casual lifestyle gimmick that will sell the Wii U to the soccer moms, while the likes of Valve, Epic and Id cater to the 'hardcore' crowd.... Sounds like the end of Japanese gaming to me, as well as the end of 'niche' games..

On the other hand, maybe someone like Valve will see it as a business opportunity to offer quirky Japanese style games for cheap via Steam on Wii U.



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Mr.Y said:

One Nintendo fan is really mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRTkCHE1sS4


Wow, Nintendo fans turning on other Nintendo fans, what a site to behold. 

This whole thing is just boring, this has practically been Nintendo's attitude this whole generation, the difference is that their line-up for the year is much worse than their line-up of recent years and they just don't give a shit. They want the 'hardcore', they want third party support and they want more games that don't involve some form of sports or dancing to sell at least half a million units, but they aren't willing to put any effort into getting any of these things, it's the same old story, all talk and no action.

The least they could do is let a competent publisher like Atlus to take charge and just reap any benefits that come from that relationship, but they'd rather let their userbase suffer a little more until the Skyward Sword releases. Hell, the Dreamcast had a much better last year and this was all while Sega was basically on the verge of disappearing.



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