PullusPardus said:
Joelcool7 said:
Man this whole warmonger crusader crap really pisses me off. Trying to argue that all the rebels in Libya are some how warlords is so immature and laughable its not funny. Yes some of the leaders have been in Al-Qaida, but others were in Gaddafi's own Army. They were proffesional soldiers who were ordered to kill innocent unarmed civilians.
As for this whole NATO should stay out of the middle east, well if the Middle East stayed out of NATO affairs maybe their wouldn't be an issue. Fact is this isn't the middle ages , we live in a global community and actions from countries effect the rest of the globe. The rest of the world cares about each others affairs and the lives of global citizens. If Gaddafi didn't start killing his citizens and instead bowed to democratic reform like Tunisia and Egypt then we wouldn't be in this mess. If Gaddafi's troops didn't attack western citizens and innocent civilians we would not be in this mess.
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seems to me from the bolded is that you don't actually agree with yourself ? , you said they're not warlords and then you say they're warlords?
as for Egypt . i've been going there twice a year since 5 years ago,i'm actually studying their "Laws" , i've lived their lives , i know their langauge (since i speak the same) , i know their religions beliefs and all that, and let me tell you they are the most hyproctical people i've ever seen, and the most uneducated bunch as well, they don't know anything about anything, the whole thing they did their little revolution is just a bunch of kids trying to mimic what happened in tunisia, i've been there when it happened, i even toke vids of the whole thing, they never wanted peace rather just want to rob each other.
you guys are very kind to thinking they just need peace and quite, but in reality since you live so far away, not knowing much of what people are like in these parts, you see them from the outside, sometimes when people are in a civil war, it doesn't mean that their leaders are to blame, sometimes the people just don't know what is good for them or rather in the case of egypt , they only want to run their crimes as free as a bird without law.
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Let me analyse what I said
"Man this whole warmonger crusader crap really pisses me off. Trying to argue that all the rebels in Libya are some how warlords is so immature and laughable its not funny."
"well if the Middle East stayed out of NATO affairs maybe their wouldn't be an issue. Fact is this isn't the middle ages , we live in a global community and actions from countries effect the rest of the globe."
When I said Warmonger Crusader crap I mean how so much of the middle eastern leaders scare their people into thinking the west is just a bunch of crusaders. Now the middle east staying out of NATO affairs, fact is many middle eastern countries openly threaten NATO countries and their allies. Fact is as I said in the rest of the sentence, we aren't in the middle ages anymore and you can't just go around attacking one country or your own people without ramifications.
As for the Libyan rebels all being warlords, of course they aren't all a bunch of warlords. Infact while their is an Al-Qaida member in the rebel government, most of the fighters and generals are Gaddafi's own troops as well as a large amount of citizens simply trying to liberate their country.
As for me not understanding Egyptian's, your right I've never been to Egypt. However stereotyping everyone who lives in a country is sort of well bad don't you think? I mean sure maybe the majority of egyptians you have met act that way, but they don't all act that way. Also uneducated as they may be wanting democracy is never a bad thing. Look at the revolutions in France when democracy came in, or the revolutions in most democratic countries, those were faught by uneducated peasents trying to over throw the educated Nobles.
Fact is democracy will help Egypt and Tunisia and any other country that revolts. The people might not be educated now and they may be doing it for the wrong reasons. But look at almost every case where democratic revolutions occured, those people weren't that much more educated or noble in their causes.