It is even worse than that.  In 2008, Patcher predicted a Wii HD in 2009.  In 2009, he thought we would see one in 2010.  Then he gave up and said PS3 was a HD Wii.  Now that Nintendo is moving on to a new generation at the historical time, Patcher loses his marbles over it.

I think... we would assume Nintendo is going down the wrong path no matter what they did with the console.

Unfortunately, we still will not know the potential of the Wii-U until NEXT YEAR's E3, but at the end of the day, it's all about the games.

I would not get one until about 3 years after launch. I made the mistake of getting the Wii too early. After Suda51 announced today that WiiU will get No More Heroes 3, I have to get it.

Along with Smash 4,Zelda, and a host of 3rd party jams.

1.  Why are you bringing up the specs? We are still over a year away from launch and the specs may not be final, and even if they were, we haven't seen any official specs from Nintendo yet so whether it is more powerful or not remains to be seem. 

2.The Dreamcaast didn't fail because it was weaker, it failed because Sega screwed their consumers, and ruined their brand image.

3. You are saying that the Wii U won't do well because it is weaker? If I remember correctly the last system that won a generation that was strongest was the SNES.

You could make that same "Wii U will not sell well because it isn't that much stronger than the current gen and it will be weaker than the next gen competition." statement about the PS1, 360 (because it is beating the PS3), and Wii. Are those systems failing?

4. How on earth did Nintendo alienate 3rd parties? It looks like a direct opposite with EA, Ubisoft, THQ, and now Crytek confirming their support for the console. They aren't having much trouble getting the kind of games that a developer wouldn't think t put on the Wii, on the Wii U. 

dude your OP falls apart just by looking at current gen with Wii and the HD twins. Dreamcast did not fail because of the graphical capabilities. it failed for other reasons though i can't prove that but just using the Wii and the HD consoles a lone makes it clear that the graphics are not the main reason for a consoles success or failure.

sheesh...

1. Do you have any proof about PS2 being 10x PS1? I understand about PS3 10x > PS2 becuase is one of (if not the) biggest jump between generations. And by that argument, you expect PS4 to be 10x than PS3?

2. *look Wii sales* You must be joking. The point is not to be the 'most powerful', is to have the right tecnology at the right moment for the right market.

3. Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor Egde, Killer Freaks, the brand new Assassins Creed, No More Heroes 3 and Batman Arkam City runing with U3 count for you?

whee, another guy treating a forum like his own, personal blog.

If the Wii U is late to the party and Nintendo is going to have the first console this generation, then how late are Sony and Microsoft going to be.

...And why are so many people assuming that the graphics on the Wii U are going to be dramatically weaker than Microsoft and Sony's next systems? I can't wait for the Wii U to come out so I can tell everyone how much the graphics on the 360 and the PS3 stink next to it.

yeah that's why he makes so much money, that every professional in the industry listen to him and that's why he keeps his job year after year..... yeah that must be because he is always wrong, stupid and has no clue about what he his talking about compare to US forumers.... with our long experience of the market and our unbiased ideas....

the real reason dreamcast bomb and there is only one.... it is that sega was facing a terrible time at the management level.... the company would have crashed with any product release.... the problem was internal..... nothing to do with the market....

and if the Wii was a success it's because a lot of casual bought it.... but I doubt they are following the market as close as we do... and WiiU even if it's all waht they've been saying might not sell much like the game cube did.... because casual won't hear/care about having a new console..... that's the risk with that segment... they are not addicted to the last new tech or new product... ( and they don't buy games).... and as we have seen all the hardcore believe PS/XB gonna be better next gen that WiiU... that's were there problem can be.... on one side people not carring about new stuff enough... and on the other people carring too much about new stufff to care buying the WiiU in both sistuation....

The "hardcorez" misguided belief that console power has truly mattered in the marketplace during the last 3 generations is laughable. Arguably, a console has never won a generation on system power alone, and the graveyard of dead, high-powered for their time, consoles (Jaguar, 3DO, etc.) supports that graphical power alone cannot bring success.

That being said, whether or not the Wii U wins or fails, is much more about the games Nintendo and others bring to the table, and very little about whatever Sony does in 2-4 years.

Power? look at the wii its not 10x more powerful than the gamecube and it outsold it by a good margin because of good games opening a new group of buyers and new game play mechanics.