sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said:
sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said: Sounds to me like the policeman is victimized for saying something that some people didn't want to hear.
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What woman wants to hear that she's responsable for some man raping her?
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so , we agree this time then?
but what do they want to hear? what to tell them?
maybe: "dress however you want and walk alone through the street by night, there is a possibility that you may get raped, but don't worry, it will be not your responsibility"
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We're talking about "provocative clothing" in general. Obviously no one's telling them to walk on the streets alone at night. You could dress as a nun and still get raped/mugged.
Oh, and is it ever a woman's responsability for being raped? WTF is up with that? It's not as if she's stepping on hot coal and getting her legs burnt. The rapist is the one commiting the rape, he's the one who's responsable.
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i completely agree! it can never be the rape victims responsibility to have been raped. no matter how she was dressed or where she went. it's absolutely the culprits responsibility and they are the only ones at fault for the crime.
however you raise a few interesting subjects.
Obviously no one's telling them to walk on the streets alone at night.
and why is that? because it is common sense? because they should be knowing that anyway? because it is dangerous for anyone?
It's not as if she's stepping on hot coal and getting her legs burnt.
same! common knowledge! do not step on hot coal, or if you have to go in the hot coal area wear the right shoes! is that what you are saying? i don't think anyone would disagree with that.
anyway, my point is it can never be theit fault if they are victims of a rape. but will that knowledge help them if they do get raped? i don't think so.
“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”
- George Orwell, ‘1984’