Jeez... I move to ignore all bundled games on PS3 and 360, then!

Wii Sports may be a forced bundle in America and PAL, but it's a multi million seller all by itself in Japan if nothing else. And Wii Play is a forced bundle of a remote, if anything, not a game. If you don't want to pay extra for the game, buy the freaking remote. Remotes being on short supply is not an excuse anymore, this game has sold bazillions on it's own merit. Is it cheap? Well more games should be. Shallower games than Wii Play's Tanks sell for more than Wii Play, online. Just because you don't like a game you don't get to say "oh but that one doesn't count!"

Besides, how does removing 2 games from a list of 15 make it look thiner? All the sudden 13 games looks a lot worse than 15? And what will you remove next, all first party games? Yeah, let's eliminate the biggest developer in the world. If somehow we can make just that one go away, the platforms it develops for, will all of the sudden suck! Guess what, it will still have more than twice as much million sellers as the other platform that came out a year ago. Good third party games sell, even on Nintendo platforms.

 PS3 has had half the sales of Wii (roughly) since launch, so you would expect lower software million sellers, plus its only been avaliable in 3 regions for 9 months, and Europe has been contributing the most to its sales. You would expect million  sellers for the PS3 next year to be FIFA, HS, Uncharted, DMC 4, MGS 4, GTA IV, LBP, (Home if it counts), KZ 2, CoD 5, AC 2 if there, maybe RSV 2 and more that I cant think of, so it should be a much better year for PS3 software sales

 Isn't Home a free service for all PS3 users ? 

And all consoles should have plenty of million sellers by next year. I think it will be the best year ever for gaming

Lets not forget that the 360 has a YEAR head start on the competition. Its not really fair to compare at all - try looking at 360 million sellers at the end of last Xmas instead.

Quite a few Wii (& PS3) titles that have been released by now, will have sold 1m by the end of *next* year.

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And with the 360, don't forget that Forza & Marvel Alliance are both primarily packed-in titles. You either count them all - or none at all. Same goes for Motorstorm, and a heap of other titles.

 ur right, I forgot, although sony are going to charge for some premium stuff and I think they are having ads in it, and they are probably going to charge for the (rumoured) dev area. But now I remember it is free for the basic service

 Yes but this is just million sellers, and most of the million sellers would have made it there anyway (MS, RFoM, Wii sports)

Leo-j you should really shut the fuck up and be appreciative that a site like this even exists. If you think you can do a better job, go do it. Stop fucking whining.

 Despite the fact I agree with you; kinda excessive dont ya think?

I suppose. But i get really riled up when people cus the site out when they have no idea what gos into making something like this work. And I'm really sick of hearing whining from a few specific people.

Shouldn't leo-j be banned by now? I've never seen someone troll the boards and site so frequently and get complete immunity like this.