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Leni said:
come on, it's obvious that Wii's success is it's gameplay!!!
please, don't say "Ps3 has gameplay", is has the gamplay of Ps1!!!

also, Wii has not only mini-game titles, it also has hard-core games like "Metroid Prime3: Corruption" and "The Legend of Zelda", it also has the "PES 2008", "No More Heroes", "Resident Evil".......i don't think these games are for children ......

WII is for EVERYONE

i have both wii and ps3, i'm not a hard-core gamer as you may call it, but i prefer Wii, although they are both are awesome, Wii is more Fun to play, Ps3 is like Ps2 with better graphics, which is NOT enough to cause people to waste their money to get one!!!

Then, pray tell, why did you waste your money on the system?

I call shenanigans.

PS. Threads like this make my ass itch. The biggest problem holding the PSP back is the rampant piracy, leading to terrible software sales, leading to less overall software. The PS3 will never have that problem. 




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If Piracy is the prime cause of the PSP's problems then why isn't the same happening to the DS which is far easier to pirate? Wouldn't it be possible that people are just buying it primarily as a mobile media device with free services instead of a game playing device?



Onimusha12 said:
If Piracy is the prime cause of the PSP's problems then why isn't the same happening to the DS which is far easier to pirate?
How is it easier? The firmwire is the only thing you have to do with PSP.

 



 
Onimusha12 said:
If Piracy is the prime cause of the PSP's problems then why isn't the same happening to the DS which is far easier to pirate?

I should have specified "holding back software sales". Hardware sales for the unit are quite solid, though obviously not on the level of the DS.

In any case, the PSP and PS3 are not in the same ballpark. They each have their own issues and are quite different from one another.

And BTW, the PSP is far easier to pirate than a DS. All you need is an internet connection and an hour of your time for most units. 




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Perhaps the gaming market is just becoming more like the rest of the electronics market. Every other product has their high and low end market price products. If the gaming market is to keep expanding I think it's a good thing to have different consoles aimed at different people. The same way you can buy some dirt cheap stereo speakers or you can indulge with some uber expensive bose 7.1 surround system. Different things keep different people happy.

I think Sony should keep pushing for the high end. I like the high end. I think they should change their marketing slogans.

Playstation 3. Too good for the likes of you.



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ion-storm said:

Perhaps the gaming market is just becoming more like the rest of the electronics market. Every other product has their high and low end market price products. If the gaming market is to keep expanding I think it's a good thing to have different consoles aimed at different people. The same way you can buy some dirt cheap stereo speakers or you can indulge with some uber expensive bose 7.1 surround system. Different things keep different people happy.

I think Sony should keep pushing for the high end. I like the high end. I think they should change their marketing slogans.

Playstation 3. Too good for the likes of you.


 That was the slogan Ken Kutaragi suggested.



rocketpig said:

And BTW, the PSP is far easier to pirate than a DS. All you need is an internet connection and an hour of your time for most units.


Also PSP appeals to people who are much familiar with hacking than average 14 yo schoolgirl who like Animal Crossing and Brain Training the most (I mean to 14-24 yo core male gamer). It's not about difficulties but audiency.

As long as PSP makes money for Sony I don't care. It could make more though. Shame.



Onimusha12 said:
Munkeh111 said:
Onimusha12 said:
Troll_Monster said:
 

 


 


 


Gameplay no better than any of the last generations with an analog stick. I Hope those graphics simply just "existing" is more than enough to compensate for the fact that they've handicapped the HD consoles in more ways than one. By your logic, if better graphics exist, and they do, and that's more than enough reason to demand them as the standard, why not just get a top of the line PC with even better gameplay (mouse & keyboard)? What? Too expensive you say? Well I guess you finally realized the dillemma with exceedingly expensive products vs more economic and appealing competitors.

Was one more generation really too much to wait for you to have those graphics? Did you really have to have them now at the cost of losing the lead to Nintendo? Was it worth alienating "Hardcore" genres even more?  

Well I guess we can find a positive in anything though. While Nintendo is comfortably making an astronomical profit this generation with economic graphics they'll be more than ready next gen to take advantage of all the money Sony and Microsoft lost this generation inbuilding up the Industry's development standards and infrastructure to this unrealistic standard of graphics they've touted, which by next gen will be more than economic if by no other means than the fact that Sony and MS made it so at their own expense and loss this generation. 


As you say, I can't afford an expensive top of line computer because it is extremely expensive, more than three times that of a console, and I don't like mouse and keyboard gameplay, since I have always been a console gamer. I like godd graphics, I feel more immersed if there are good graphics, and so enjoy the game more, and ulltimately that is what gaming is about.

You seem to be suggesting that Sony and Microsoft will never make any money. Of course they are loosing money, because they went down a different line to Nintendo, are more expensive one, that in my opinion, will ultimately yield better results for the gamer, even if Wii is still first in terms of sales. As far as I know, the PS2 was initially sold at a loss, and look how much it has made for sony now, of course they were first in the race at that time. So Sony will make some money. Many people have said that sony will fail and loose this generation. However, we have seen how they have begun to turn things around using their one advantage over nintendo. they are part of an electronics company that is involved in many things, and thus has a very large number of income sources. This means that they can afford these short term losses, in order that they can yield long term profits. the price drop, although it means that Sony loose more money, shifts PS3s, which shifts more software and blu-rays, earning more money for Sony. At the same time it shows that the PS3 can sell well and that Sony are prepared to make sacrifices for it to do well, it encourages third parties to develop for PS3. Well of course you will say that they will develop for the wii, but they have already invested in the tech which they want to use this generation not next generation, so they will look to the PS360. Also some games do sell well on the HD consoles, although Wii software is selling better.

Anyway, the fact that the Wii is leading now does not mean it will lead for ever, it also does not mean that Nintendo will win the next generation. 



Onimusha12 said:
If Piracy is the prime cause of the PSP's problems then why isn't the same happening to the DS which is far easier to pirate? Wouldn't it be possible that people are just buying it primarily as a mobile media device with free services instead of a game playing device?

PSP buy more advanced users, while DS buy more casual people, which play such games like brain training, nintendo dogs and etc. Usually besides those games, they can buy 2-3 normal games, which cost almost same as M3 card + 4GB flash card.



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

Onimusha12 said:
Munkeh111 said:
Onimusha12 said:
Troll_Monster said:
Leni said:
come on, it's obvious that Wii's success is it's gameplay!!!
please, don't say "Ps3 has gameplay", is has the gamplay of Ps1!!!

also, Wii has not only mini-game titles, it also has hard-core games like "Metroid Prime3: Corruption" and "The Legend of Zelda", it also has the "PES 2008", "No More Heroes", "Resident Evil".......i don't think these games are for children ......

WII is for EVERYONE

i have both wii and ps3, i'm not a hard-core gamer as you may call it, but i prefer Wii, although they are both are awesome, Wii is more Fun to play, Ps3 is like Ps2 with better graphics, which is NOT enough to cause people to waste their money to get one!!!

 

I'll ask you a question, why can't we have games which are both fun and have great graphics?


Because these "Great Graphics", as you put it, this generation come at a heafty price for both consumer and developer.


Yes, but they still exist. I am sure many people will agree Uncharted, Ratchet, Bioshock, AC and CoD all had graphics and gameplay


Gameplay no better than any of the last generations with an analog stick. I Hope those graphics simply just "existing" is more than enough to compensate for the fact that they've handicapped the HD consoles in more ways than one. By your logic, if better graphics exist, and they do, and that's more than enough reason to demand them as the standard, why not just get a top of the line PC with even better gameplay (mouse & keyboard)? What? Too expensive you say? Well I guess you finally realized the dillemma with exceedingly expensive products vs more economic and appealing competitors.

Was one more generation really too much to wait for you to have those graphics? Did you really have to have them now at the cost of losing the lead to Nintendo? Was it worth alienating "Hardcore" genres even more?

Well I guess we can find a positive in anything though. While Nintendo is comfortably making an astronomical profit this generation with economic graphics they'll be more than ready next gen to take advantage of all the money Sony and Microsoft lost this generation inbuilding up the Industry's development standards and infrastructure to this unrealistic standard of graphics they've touted, which by next gen will be more than economic if by no other means than the fact that Sony and MS made it so at their own expense and loss this generation.

 

You're assuming here that gameplay on the Wii would be worse if it were just the old Gamecube controller.  Good luck proving that one.