SnakeDrake said: Monster Hunter 4 is exclusive to the 3DS how much more injustice can the Vita take. |
How many vita games do you have in your library? | |||
0-10 | 184 | 31.51% | |
11-20 | 109 | 18.66% | |
21-30 | 69 | 11.82% | |
30+ | 215 | 36.82% | |
Total: | 577 |
SnakeDrake said: Monster Hunter 4 is exclusive to the 3DS how much more injustice can the Vita take. |
darkknightkryta said:
I don't think it went down that way... I personally believe that whatever Nintendo gave Capcom hasn't really panned out, so I doubt Monster Hunter 5 will be 3DS exclusive. |
Guys please... those short memories.
Sony was terrible to capcom a few years ago and basically barred the release of MH3 HD in the US and Europe. Capcom was forced to go with nintendo. Capcom has proved with the MH vita game they just announced that theres no deal with nintendo, it was just business. Sony has changed their ways in the latest years, so im sure it will become a possibility again.
Dont forget though, the reason MH is on the 3DS is because Sony was arrogant in the past.
M.U.G.E.N said:
Peggle 2 incoming? lol |
The word "across" has me intrigued. Across platforms? aka a port, or across the seas? Aka a localisation.
Sounds like type-0 to me.
Tom3k said:
Japanese major publishers seem to favor Nintendo. Capcom, Konami, Sega... |
Believe it or not, those companies make more money on systems that are not Nintendo.
badgenome said:
Since MH4 sold about as much as MHP3's first week, and arguably more with downloads and downloads cards, I don't think that's likely. Unless it has no legs whatsoever, Capcom has no reason to be disatisfied with their move to the 3DS. With PSP like sales and Nintendo incentives, I wouldn't be surprised if it does remain exclusive. Nintendo doesn't get a lot of exclusives, but it tends to keep those it does get: DQ, Layton, Ace Attorney, Inazuma Eleven, etc. |
I'm actually talking about their other stuff that didn't pan. I had a hunch about the 3DS and Capcom. It always struck me as odd that only Capcom games look good. Like next gen good, compared to everything else on the 3DS. So I always felt something about the hardware was locked, then Dannesin.... however his name is spelled, made that thread about Nintendo locking hardware functions in SDKs so they had full monopoly of power. So I've always felt in exchange for Monster Hunter, Capcom had full access to the 3DS' graphic set. Which obviously hasn't panned out. That's just a hunch though. Plus It's easier to port from Vita to PS4 than it is from 3DS, so it'd make no sense to not make Monster Hunter 5 multiplatform. But then again Capcom doesn't like money and is going bankrupt.
darkknightkryta said: I'm actually talking about their other stuff that didn't pan. I had a hunch about the 3DS and Capcom. It always struck me as odd that only Capcom games look good. Like next gen good, compared to everything else on the 3DS. So I always felt something about the hardware was locked, then Dannesin.... however his name is spelled, made that thread about Nintendo locking hardware functions in SDKs so they had full monopoly of power. So I've always felt in exchange for Monster Hunter, Capcom had full access to the 3DS' graphic set. Which obviously hasn't panned out. That's just a hunch though. Plus It's easier to port from Vita to PS4 than it is from 3DS, so it'd make no sense to not make Monster Hunter 5 multiplatform. But then again Capcom doesn't like money and is going bankrupt. |
Oh. I don't know anything about that. But Monster Hunter 4 looks pretty terrible!
Capcom's not in any immediate financial danger at all, though. Their real problem is more of a looming fall into irrelevance because they want to rely on nothing but Monster Hunter (which will never be big in the west), Street Fighter (when the market is hugely susceptible to fighting game fatigue), and Resident Evil (which is looking shaky with too many releases over the past couple of years and a poorly received RE6). And iOS games, which are cheap to make but don't typically bring in enough revenue to sustain a company the size of Capcom unless you hit it big like Puzzle & Dragons or something and the odds of that are like winning the lottery. Basically, if Japan ever gets tired of Monster Hunter they don't have much of anything since they've let their huge back catalog of IPs rot away. For some reason they'd rather put out bombs like Remember Me and Lost Planet 3 than to dedicate similar budgets to things that people have been asking for for years, like Mega Man and Dino Crisis and Onimusha.
badgenome said:
Oh. I don't know anything about that. But Monster Hunter 4 looks pretty terrible! Capcom's not in any immediate financial danger at all, though. Their real problem is more of a looming fall into irrelevance because they want to rely on nothing but Monster Hunter (which will never be big in the west), Street Fighter (when the market is hugely susceptible to fighting game fatigue), and Resident Evil (which is looking shaky with too many releases over the past couple of years and a poorly received RE6). And iOS games, which are cheap to make but don't typically bring in enough revenue to sustain a company the size of Capcom unless you hit it big like Puzzle & Dragons or something and the odds of that are like winning the lottery. Basically, if Japan ever gets tired of Monster Hunter they don't have much of anything since they've let their huge back catalog of IPs rot away. For some reason they'd rather put out bombs like Remember Me and Lost Planet 3 than to dedicate similar budgets to things that people have been asking for for years, like Mega Man and Dino Crisis and Onimusha. |
Monster Hunter 4 does look terrible, but RE:R and Super Street Fighter 4 are both the best looking games on the 3DS and by a large margin.
I was making fun of that thread about how much money Capcom has left. But Capcom is going to be in huge trouble next gen. Fighting games have been put on hold till atleast 2015. As much I as I really liked RE6, they've pissed off too many "entitled" fans to salvage the series. Remember Me was more of a publishing thing than development, Sony was actually gonna publish it way back. Lost Planet 3 is lost money. Onimusha has no fanbase left since the last game bombed. Dino Crisis screwed up way worse than Resident Evil (Seriously Dino Crisis 3's a joke of a game... in a bad way). Only thing left is Megaman, but let's be realistic; just because a fanbase is yelling on the internet, doesn't mean its big.
As an aside, I think with tweaking that Maverick Hunter FPS could have turned out pretty pro and might have sold decently. If they kept pushing they might have been able to resurrect Megaman, but that dream is gone.
darkknightkryta said: Only thing left is Megaman, but let's be realistic; just because a fanbase is yelling on the internet, doesn't mean its big. |
Very true that it's no guarantor of success, but if I were Capcom I'd rather bet money on a game that somebody wants rather than on all these games that nobody wants.
badgenome said:
Very true that it's no guarantor of success, but if I were Capcom I'd rather bet money on a game that somebody wants rather than on all these games that nobody wants. |
Your absolutely right. I think this comes back to budget management. They can make some kind of Megaman game and keep it in a well thought out budget and make money. But we both know monkeys run Capcom. Hopefully we'll see some changes from them when they start bleeding money, unlike a certain other Japanese game company who thinks doing more of the same is a big change.
I have no idea what happened between Sony and Capcom (plus Capcom and Nintendo) but the lack of Monster Hunter title had some major effect on PS Vita on a bad way. However, hopefully Sony will use it's core competence (in terms of gaming) and push some amazing titles from first party studios. Imo, if Sony got MH4 we would never had Soul Sacrifice and that would be a big loss.
darkknightkryta said: Your absolutely right. I think this comes back to budget management. They can make some kind of Megaman game and keep it in a well thought out budget and make money. But we both know monkeys run Capcom. Hopefully we'll see some changes from them when they start bleeding money, unlike a certain other Japanese game company who thinks doing more of the same is a big change. |
Yeah, definitely. It's all AAA(AAAAAAAAAAAA) or iOS now. And for the most part the Japanese just can't really compete when it comes to AAA. The big thing they should all look at, but especially Capcom, is how Ubisoft has diversified its portfolio. I think the downloadable "mini-AAA" model for Blood Dragon/Gunslinger/Child of Light would be perfect for them. It would let them experiment and make some of the sorts of crazy, inventive games that put them on the map to begin with, and do so relatively inexpensively (assuming Capcom has any talent left to do this kind of thing).
Otherwise the only hope seems to be younger companies like Marvelous and Gungho.