@ Erik: I distinctly see a post above where people are taking the NPD data and adding in 15% to account for NA. If I'm wrong, what is the 15% for? Either way, vgcharts is adding in 15% off the NPD totals. Something I got poo-pooed for when I tried to go above 10%, and it was repeatedly beat into my head here that EVERYBODY knows this imaginary 10% rule. So, why the difference? Why is everybody else adding in another 5%, but at the same time ridiculing me when I said it had to be over 10%?

@Monty Well at least in Gothenburg, second largest town in Sweden (were I come from), all the resellers seem to have a lot of xbox360 in stock. I would guess that they avarage around 25 units per store, and sweden is a very small market. The xbox360 only sold 10k units here the week before december. Which can be compared to the ps2 30k. The xbox360 is for the moment being outsold by the ps2. I do belive that there might be 2.5 million units on the road and in stock or on the roads. I mean Nintendo stated that they had shippe 2 millions to USA and the total number for november and december ended around 1.2 milljon...were is the rest? If nintendo can have "lost" 800k units during nov-dec and be totaly sold out, I wounder why xbox360 can't have 1.2-1-5 units "lost" in transist and sitting on shelves in USA alone, and if you have that, why should it not be possible to have another 1 million in EU? I mean EU has some really large countries such as UK, France and Germany. Then add the nordic countries, spain, italy and so on. 2.5 million is nothing... I do belive that the number on the front is as accurate as you can get them for Japan and USA. I do not know about the others but Microsofts strong market has always been USA.

Haha, some major sock - eating is in order I think !!

According to which figures they are too high??

XboX 360: 8.67m - 11m (9.83M) Wii: 4M - 4.7m (4.35M) PS3: 1.33m - 1.6m (1.46M) http://en.konsolewars.com/ http://nexgenwars.com/ http://www.vgcharts.org/