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if an adult christian feels that their urges are sinful, then they should be able to get help dealing with them. now if only the catholic church helped their priests deal with their urges...



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Damn you sugar industry lobyists!



Wait, do the patients know it is a sugar pill? If so this is stupid.

But if the patients were told - 'Here, this is a pill that can cure your homosexuality,' then it could work to some degree. Sexuality has a lot to do with the brain and perceptions.



sapphi_snake said:

A Catholic doctors' association in Germany believes it can cure the sexual orientation of gays and lesbians with sugar pills -- though only at their request, the group says. But the homo-homeopathy has been harshly criticized by members of its target community.

The Lesbian and Gay Federation in Germany (LSVD) is outraged. Following news reported this week by the online magazine Telepolis that the Union of Catholic Physicians (UCP) has been offering homeopathic "Therapy Options for Homosexuality" on their website, the advocacy organization called the suggestion an "insult," and an "impertinence" that showed "a lack of respect for homosexuals and bisexuals."

 

The religious association, which calls itself the "voice of the Catholic medical community," writes on its website that while "homosexuality is not an illness," a host of treatments are available to keep such "inclinations" at bay. Possibilities include "constitutional treatments with homeopathic tools … such as homeopathic dilutions like Platinum," "psychotherapy," and "religious counseling." Among homeopathy's controversial treatments are the prescription of "Globuli," tiny pills that consisting mostly of sugar.

"We know about a number of people with homosexual feelings who find themselves in a spiritual and psychological emergency and suffer greatly," UCP head Gero Winkelmann told SPIEGEL in a written statement. "If someone is unhappy, ill or feels they are in an emergency, they should be able to find options for help with us."

But the doctor, who runs a private practice with an emphasis on homeopathy in the Bavarian town of Unterhaching, also stressed that the UCP website had not been recently updated, "because the issue is not particularly topical at the moment."

As for the scientific basis of the treatments offered by the UCP, Winkelmann listed "medical-psychotherapeutic, philosophical and theological literature," the "minority views of psychotherapists," the "teachings of the Catholic church, the Holy Scripture," and the "homeopathy of Samuel Hahnemann," the German physician credited with creating the practice.

'Dangerous' and 'Laughable'

But touting ineffective medication for nonexistent suffering is unacceptable, the LSVD said. "The offerings are dangerous," said spokeswoman Renate Rampf. "They use the insecurities of homosexual or bisexual young people and their parents." Such "laughable" therapeutic ministrations are problematic because they can be "destabilizing," she said.

"All serious experts agree that sexual orientation is already evident in early childhood," she added.

But Winkelmann defended the treatments, saying his organization's intentions were not meant to "injure or pressure" anyone, but to express a "position and medical opinion" to interested parties.

The UCP website includes a testimonial from a southern German gay man who writes that he had been happy to find that the organization believed "that changing homosexual tendencies was possible" because finding a therapist to undertake such a task had been difficult. "Unfortunately the widespread opinion among psychotherapists is that homosexuality is inherent and unalterable," he writes.

 

While the UCP says it does not represent official Catholic policies, the Church continues to grapple with its approach to homosexuality. Just last month Cologne Archbishop Joachim Meisner withdrew the religious teaching privileges of prominent publicist and pedagogue David Berger after he revealed his homosexuality and criticized the Catholic stance on the issue. The church declared that the teacher could "no longer credibly give Catholic religion lessons on behalf of the Church."

Though Germany's Protestants tend to take a more liberal approach to homosexuality, conservative members of the church also continue to raise opposition to gay-friendly policies. In 2009 some 30 pastors from the state of North Rhine-Westphalia wrote an open letter to condemn statements made by the church's state president Alfred Buss. "The practice of homosexuality is not consistent with God's creation," said the letter to online news portal Der Westen. Those who discredit therapy for homosexuality deny people "who suffer from homosexual feelings the help to change," the letter continued.

Meanwhile the World Health Organization (WHO) removed homosexuality from its International Code of Diseases on January 1, 1993. The move brought the "19th century to an end for gays and lesbians 90 years too late," said the LSVD at the time. But perhaps they rejoiced too soon.

 

Source: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,766281,00.html


Why does the media always have to focus public attention on the most stupid people around? That's a disease we really need to find a cure for.



S____M____C____C said:
Sugar pills are placebo's. In other words, it's not the actual sugar that is supposed to make a change - but the mentality of the patients. They take the pill and believe they will get better, and so they might actually get better.

Placebo's have worked with many conditions. Don't think they would in this case though.

Aversion therapy can cure homosexuality.


First: it's not a placebo, it's homeopatic medication.

second: you cannot cure what is not an illness!



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

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Porcupine_I said:
S____M____C____C said:
Sugar pills are placebo's. In other words, it's not the actual sugar that is supposed to make a change - but the mentality of the patients. They take the pill and believe they will get better, and so they might actually get better.

Placebo's have worked with many conditions. Don't think they would in this case though.

Aversion therapy can cure homosexuality.


First: it's not a placebo, it's homeopatic medication.

second: you cannot cure what is not an illness!

Soz, this is mad if it's not a placebo.

And it isn't an illness, I agree. But what other term can I use? Fixed? Altered?



The placebo effect is a very strong thing. If people believe it enough wouldn't people become straight.
If that was true the same pill could turn straight people guy. It really is the same logic.



S____M____C____C said:

Soz, this is mad if it's not a placebo.

And it isn't an illness, I agree. But what other term can I use? Fixed? Altered?

Anything that doesn't imply something is wrong to begin with really. Altered, changed, and so on.



S____M____C____C said:
Porcupine_I said:
S____M____C____C said:
Sugar pills are placebo's. In other words, it's not the actual sugar that is supposed to make a change - but the mentality of the patients. They take the pill and believe they will get better, and so they might actually get better.

Placebo's have worked with many conditions. Don't think they would in this case though.

Aversion therapy can cure homosexuality.


First: it's not a placebo, it's homeopatic medication.

second: you cannot cure what is not an illness!

Soz, this is mad if it's not a placebo.

And it isn't an illness, I agree. But what other term can I use? Fixed? Altered?

actually in my own opinion it IS a placebo, the only difference is, that the doctor belives that it helps too!

as for the term, i do not know. i don't think there is one needed at all.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

S____M____C____C said:
Sugar pills are placebo's. In other words, it's not the actual sugar that is supposed to make a change - but the mentality of the patients. They take the pill and believe they will get better, and so they might actually get better.

Placebo's have worked with many conditions. Don't think they would in this case though.

Aversion therapy can cure homosexuality.

Except it doesn't. Not to mention that that wouldn't be a "curing", but rather "damaging".



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