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I think any European country right now that votes would vote for the party currently not in power. In Germany, that would mean a shift to the left, in Portugal it means a shift to the right.

This is due to the people being a bit pissed everywhere, but has little to do with a shift in their political views, imo.



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Kynes said:
The Fury said:
Zlejedi said:

Looks like failure of socialistic EU model that lead us to the brink of a crisis is making people eyes open and hopefully more countries will go right side.

So I know what you are on about, what is this socialistic EU model of which you mention? And I presume the 'brink of crisis' is the recent financial crisis?


Spending much more than you can.

They could spend that much money, low unemployed numbers, a lot of companies investing in the country, a bank sector that drives it.....  It is no big surprise ifthe bank sector crumbles (responsible for the low unemployed numbers and heavy economic growths) that the country gets in a problem.  Then again it is always popular to blame the EU socialistic model when everything is going bad but when other countries doing well with the same model like Germany you don't hear 'That is thx to the Eu socialistic model'



 

i did vote for PS (the ones that were the government) because they did a good job (yes they did spend a lot but we all can see what they did)... in the other side (the one that win) we have a dude that is a two face guy with double standards, that started a political crisis over a tantrum... and we, the Portuguese, are going to suffer a lot because of him... this is a sad day for me...



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Faxanadu said:
I think any European country right now that votes would vote for the party currently not in power. In Germany, that would mean a shift to the left, in Portugal it means a shift to the right.

This is due to the people being a bit pissed everywhere, but has little to do with a shift in their political views, imo.

Pretty much.


With exceptions of course. Usually the exception being that they've already voted the government that was in power through the financial crisis out.



Kynes said:
The Fury said:
Zlejedi said:

Looks like failure of socialistic EU model that lead us to the brink of a crisis is making people eyes open and hopefully more countries will go right side.

So I know what you are on about, what is this socialistic EU model of which you mention? And I presume the 'brink of crisis' is the recent financial crisis?


Spending much more than you can.

Any party in power can achieve that. I'd say it's more like Faxanadu said, the parties in power are losing. Germany and Italy both have a Centre-Right parties in power at the moment, come their next elections will they lose too? I think there is a high chance.



Hmm, pie.

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Kantor said:
Are they actually right wing, or just another crappy "centre-right" party which is now equivalent to most countries' left-wing parties?


That`s a question that i really don`t know how to answer as i don`t really understand "wings" in their essence. But PSD have been said to be more liberal and they really aren`t overprotective as our left-wing parties. But they do care for the social side, for those who aren`t able to take care of themselves. They just act differently than your normal left wing parties.



Kynes said:
It's very probable that Spain is the next one to go to the right side. I'm glad for the Portuguese people, if you need to be fiscally responsible, it's better to have a government that believes in the policies you have to implement. I've never seen a socialist party that it's fiscally responsible.

In this special situation that Portugal has been facing and will face, because of the international aid, the social party wasn`t ready to fully follow that program given by the IMF and EU. For example, the IMF and EU had in their plan a request to substancially reduced one tax, yet the leader of the social party was saying that they were just going to reduce a little bit as to not hurt the portuguese people. I honestly don`t think it`s right to sign that plan one day and in the other, pratically saying you are not going to follow it (that line in particular).
Actually, some people who actually know what they are talking about said that for that tax reduction to have an impact, it really needs to be reduced significantly.



Lostplanet22 said:
Kynes said:
The Fury said:
Zlejedi said:

Looks like failure of socialistic EU model that lead us to the brink of a crisis is making people eyes open and hopefully more countries will go right side.

So I know what you are on about, what is this socialistic EU model of which you mention? And I presume the 'brink of crisis' is the recent financial crisis?


Spending much more than you can.

They could spend that much money, low unemployed numbers, a lot of companies investing in the country, a bank sector that drives it.....  It is no big surprise ifthe bank sector crumbles (responsible for the low unemployed numbers and heavy economic growths) that the country gets in a problem.  Then again it is always popular to blame the EU socialistic model when everything is going bad but when other countries doing well with the same model like Germany you don't hear 'That is thx to the Eu socialistic model'


Is it really the same?  Portugal is the P in PIGS for a reason.

They've always had a soverign debt issue when compaired to countries like Germany.



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The Fury said:
Kynes said:
The Fury said:
Zlejedi said:

Looks like failure of socialistic EU model that lead us to the brink of a crisis is making people eyes open and hopefully more countries will go right side.

So I know what you are on about, what is this socialistic EU model of which you mention? And I presume the 'brink of crisis' is the recent financial crisis?


Spending much more than you can.

Any party in power can achieve that. I'd say it's more like Faxanadu said, the parties in power are losing. Germany and Italy both have a Centre-Right parties in power at the moment, come their next elections will they lose too? I think there is a high chance.

Berlusconi's bound to go in Italy. Italian women are finally getting pissed at the machismo culture en masse and his longstanding support of Qaddafi has to reflect poorly right now

If Berlusconi doesn't drop in the next election, then the Italian Left might as well give up forever...



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