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brendude13 on 31 May 2011
Mr Khan said:
brendude13 said:
Mr Khan said:
 

It really only has effect in the launch period, or at least it shouldn't have too much of an effect after that. You must realize that not all customers feel compelled to buy games all the time. They buy what they want, and don't buy what they don't want. It's not like "i bought the N64 with Mario 64, and now i have to buy Pilotwings because there's nothing else," you just don't buy anything else. Only a small segment of gamers will do that

If there is only one good game in a particular genre, it would sell substantially better if there were two good games in that genre.

People don't always look for a specific game, they look for a specific genre or type of game. If there is less to choose from, the odds are, what's left will sell better.

A good example is Halo CE on the original XBOX, at that time, it was probably one of the only games worth buying on the XBOX, if the XBOX recieved as much 3rd party support as the PS2 then the sales of Halo CE would have taken a huge hit.

I understand what you mean about people only wanting to buy one specific game, but if they can't find that they buy the most similar game. I have done this myself, back in 2008 I was going to buy Tomb Raider Underworld, but then I read the positive reviews for Uncharted and played that instead, because there was more to choose from, Tomb Raider Underworld lost a sale. If Uncharted didn't exist then Tomb Raider sales would be significantly boosted.

Point, but now we're talking about similarity in genre, which is a valid argument, but a different one than what has been made here (that so many games in different genres across Sony's first-party works is why none of them have sold spectacularly)

It's not always similarity in genre, like I said with the Halo CE example.

I believe that the PS3 doesn't have any top selling games because there is a lot of variety.



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richardhutnik on 31 May 2011
blkfish92 said:

If nintendo unveils a new smash bros. to come at launch of their new console, then yes, they win in my book.

That also looks like it includes a lot of third-party support, with a number of exclusives, but every other multiplatform title on the 360 and PS3 to.  



Oblivion86 on 31 May 2011
brendude13 said:
Mr Khan said:
brendude13 said:
Mr Khan said:
 

What is with all these people making the "if you have less choice, you'll buy what's there, and that's why it sells more," argument? Sales absolutely do not work like that

I think they do, I mean the game has to be good aswell, but having less of a choice will boost the sales of what's left.

It really only has effect in the launch period, or at least it shouldn't have too much of an effect after that. You must realize that not all customers feel compelled to buy games all the time. They buy what they want, and don't buy what they don't want. It's not like "i bought the N64 with Mario 64, and now i have to buy Pilotwings because there's nothing else," you just don't buy anything else. Only a small segment of gamers will do that

If there is only one good game in a particular genre, it would sell substantially better if there were two good games in that genre.

People don't always look for a specific game, they look for a specific genre or type of game. If there is less to choose from, the odds are, what's left will sell better.

A good example is Halo CE on the original XBOX, at that time, it was probably one of the only games worth buying on the XBOX, if the XBOX recieved as much 3rd party support as the PS2 then the sales of Halo CE would have taken a huge hit.

I understand what you mean about people only wanting to buy one specific game, but if they can't find that they buy the most similar game. I have done this myself, back in 2008 I was going to buy Tomb Raider Underworld, but then I read the positive reviews for Uncharted and played that instead, because there was more to choose from, Tomb Raider Underworld lost a sale. If Uncharted didn't exist then Tomb Raider sales would be significantly boosted.


I disagree, at launch word of mouth sold Halo not the supporting library. It was the launch game that everyone wanted regardless of what else was out there. Then since the original was such a huge hit, hype for the sequels went through the roof. So no it didn't make one bit of difference.



thismeintiel on 01 June 2011
xinstantnoodlez said:
thismeintiel said:
xinstantnoodlez said:

But microsoft IPs sell millions more than Sony IPs...soooo whats the deal?

Well, I would agree with you, but you got one thing going against you.  You're wrong.


name one sony game that outsold either gears, or halo??

You said MS IP's.  MS does not own Gears of War, so it doesn't even count.  Of course, you do have GT5, which should end up selling at least 9-11 mil. 



 

EyeAmTJ on 01 June 2011

If in IP's they mean remakes then Sony & Nintendo both lost...Make new IP's that's not trash



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M.U.G.E.N on 01 June 2011
EyeAmTJ said:

If in IP's they mean remakes then Sony & Nintendo both lost...Make new IP's that's not trash


sorry but ignorance is on a whole new level with this post...I mean just wow -_- tell me you're joking?



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PlaystaionGamer on 01 June 2011

Does anyone know what time Sony E3 starts in the UK/GMT? 

i heard its like 2am... i REALLY hope not



mundus6 on 01 June 2011

Personally i'm hoping for a new IP, a 3RD party exlusive or a GOW 4. Every other Sony franchise i like, gets (got) a new game this year (except for TLG which got delayed) so they have to bring something new if they want to stay ahead imo.



mundus6 on 01 June 2011
thismeintiel said:
xinstantnoodlez said:
thismeintiel said:
xinstantnoodlez said:

But microsoft IPs sell millions more than Sony IPs...soooo whats the deal?

Well, I would agree with you, but you got one thing going against you.  You're wrong.


name one sony game that outsold either gears, or halo??

You said MS IP's.  MS does not own Gears of War, so it doesn't even count.  Of course, you do have GT5, which should end up selling at least 9-11 mil. 

Actually they do hence why it has only appeared on MS platforms and what does that matter? MGS4 is still a PS3 exclusive even though Sony doesn't own it.



Chibi.V.29 on 01 June 2011
brendude13 said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Onyxmeth said:
Xen said:

No shit. In my eyes, they are leaps and bounds ahead of Nintendo as well.

Just curious but why? Nintendo in my eyes has the IP department on lock. I'd say they have an entire 2-3 tiers of IPs with more selling potential than anything Sony is able to produce. Anything we can really judge IP success by is something Nintendo crushes Sony at overall. 


Comparing the sales of Nintebndo first parts game and sony is kinda unfair. If you buy a nintendo system you buy it for the nintendo games since there 3rd party support is so bad (compared to ps360 anyway). Where as with the 360 and ps3 aswell as the first party games there is a massive number of 3rd party games.

I'm going to buy a Wii soon and most of the games are 3rd party I believe.

Lol good luck with that *goes and rofls in he corner*



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