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I had something decent to contribute to this thread but I will believe I shall just say, fuck you all.



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Snesboy said:

I had something decent to contribute to this thread but I will believe I shall just say, fuck you all.

Nah, I bet that's the best you could come up with.



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sapphi_snake said:
Snesboy said:

I had something decent to contribute to this thread but I will believe I shall just say, fuck you all.

Nah, I bet that's the best you could come up with.

There's no point in arguing over religion over the internet.



Snesboy said:
sapphi_snake said:
Snesboy said:

I had something decent to contribute to this thread but I will believe I shall just say, fuck you all.

Nah, I bet that's the best you could come up with.

There's no point in arguing over religion over the internet.

Well, this is more about a religious institution and it's actions, rather than a discussion about religion per se.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

not that supprising because the vatican were probably linked to benito mussolini, who was an allie to nazi germany till mussolini was executed in 1943. people at the vatican probably were believers of nazis, so done whatever to help them. 



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well there is an confusion between Nazi's and soldiers among western society, for example: the German Army weren't not Nazi's. They were like any army back in those days, there government happened to be the nazi's. taking the US as example, if the republicans are in control, everyone in the army aren't republicans. Now for the SS, again you are in germany, you join the army you get put into the SS. You are told to kill jews, now you have been brainwashed by your government, you aren't educated like today so you dont know whats better and worst if you define orders you are dead your selves. Tho most of the SS did commit war crimes. 

On the topic of the church happening, you know its the same church that ordered 4 (cursades) on muslims?, rounded up thousands of europeans to murder all the muslims. And they hated jews as well. Also an quick history lesson. Not long before WW2 the russians had there own jew genocide in Russia. no one denounced the russians for it. 



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Well yeah.  That's not news.  A lot of it was at the assurance of various governments.

The Church was working under the orders of various western governments when it came to the cases where they gave forged papers.



sapphi_snake said:
S____M____C____C said:

Wait....

Why would the Vatican help SS men flee? Tha Nazis tried to suppress religion and fell out with the RC Church big time. And if the church was frightened of Stalin, then how would sending SS men to South America and Spain help?

The relations between the RCC and the Nazis wasn't as bad as you may think. The RCC hated Communists much more than it did Nazis. Not to mention that the RCC is responsable for most of the anti-Jewish sentiment present in Western Europe (it's based on religious arguments for most people). The Holocaust is something the RCC would've loved to do itself when it had actual political power.

Yes it was.  Back in it's power Hitler basically said "shut up about everythign we do or we will flatten the vatican."  I mean, it might be worth noting that the Vatican was right in the freaking middle of axis territory for nearly the majority of the war.... and the people in there could of been taken out and shot on any given day.  The fact they remained as nuetral as they did was a wonder.

Heck protests and the like probably would of just got german catholics on the chopping block before their time.

An no... the holocaust is not something the RCC would do.  That's just.... unbelievably ignorant.

Your letting your extreme bias against religion show... and it makes you look sad.



Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:
S____M____C____C said:

Wait....

Why would the Vatican help SS men flee? Tha Nazis tried to suppress religion and fell out with the RC Church big time. And if the church was frightened of Stalin, then how would sending SS men to South America and Spain help?

The relations between the RCC and the Nazis wasn't as bad as you may think. The RCC hated Communists much more than it did Nazis. Not to mention that the RCC is responsable for most of the anti-Jewish sentiment present in Western Europe (it's based on religious arguments for most people). The Holocaust is something the RCC would've loved to do itself when it had actual political power.

Yes it was.  Back in it's power Hitler basically said "shut up about everythign we do or we will flatten the vatican."  I mean, it might be worth noting that the Vatican was right in the freaking middle of axis territory for nearly the majority of the war.... and the people in there could of been taken out and shot on any given day.  The fact they remained as nuetral as they did was a wonder.

Heck protests and the like probably would of just got german catholics on the chopping block before their time.

An no... the holocaust is not something the RCC would do.  That's just.... unbelievably ignorant.

Your letting your extreme bias against religion show... and it makes you look sad.

 

The Catholic Church at the time still assigned the crime of Deicide to the entire jewish people dead, living, and yet to be born.  You have no idea how much the Catholic church does not like jews.  Catholics are not Zionists, they're not christians who are friendly with jews, they're the exact opposite.  They see jews as being a race of sinners who only corrupt others.  I was raised in a heavily Catholic family, I have been to Catholic churches all throughout Italy and many in America.  Saying that the Catholic church would not exterminate the jewish population of the world if it could is unbelievably naive.

 




sapphi_snake said:
Snesboy said:
sapphi_snake said:
Snesboy said:

I had something decent to contribute to this thread but I will believe I shall just say, fuck you all.

Nah, I bet that's the best you could come up with.

There's no point in arguing over religion over the internet.

Well, this is more about a religious institution and it's actions, rather than a discussion about religion per se.

Oh well, then yes, the Vatican is terrible I agree. I was just being too broad, my bad. The Emperor..I mean the Pope looks like Darth Sidious.