While I agree there's too much negativity, I'm also not ready to rejoice.  

We'll have to wait and see what Cafe really is and is all about at E3.    

I totally 'got' what Nintendo was doing with Wii and was one of the first to predict it'd be a huge success (when everyone else thought it'd drive Nintendo out of business).   

I don't understand 3DS and so far I don't 'get' Cafe either.   Not to say they'll flop, but I don't see the appeal.

I get they want to include 3rd parties and can't support systems by themselves.  But 3rd parties are pretty much all trapped in a mindset of bigger, badder, better sequelitis, and rarely, if ever, truly innovate, resulting in losses more often than profits.   To me this is kind of like tying your boat to a sinking ship.

I think Nintendo would be better off buying some 3rd parties (like say Capcom) to expand their production and IPs but otherwise staying the course set with DS / Wii.  

Still, we havn't gotten the full picture or vision of what's Nintendo's up to.  So I look forward to it and expect to be pleasantly surprised.

I think we should just patiently wait until we find out whether or not the Café rumors have some truth to them, (Which I doubt, because Nintendo isn't pants-on-head-retarded) before we start making predictions.

There are still too much unknowns at this point to safely talk about Cafe and it`s success - or not.
There´s no price point, no strategy (business and online wise) and no games.

Still, i believe that Cafe will successful. Nintendo has a strong presence amongst non-gamers/casual gamers and it has games like Mario Kart, Wii Sports and New Super Mario Bros, that strongly resonate with that market. Although that market is far from won, Nintendo knows how the market thinks and might reach success that way.

The biggest IF seems to be: can Nintendo reach the core market? If Nintendo can bring the same kind of games (minus the exclusives) that MS and Sony bring to their consoles, then, Nintendo has a great chance. But as i said before, that`s actually the biggest IF.

My greatest expectation actually relies on the remote itself and my vision of how it will be and what it will permit. I don`t really care that much for visuals or online, but that`s just me.

lol

I think my perdictions are well based and accurate.

On every forum I am everyone is happy about Cafè and hyped for what could happen at E3. And everyone is enjoing its 3DS too, many are waiting for some games or for a redesign. Only on VGC the number of negative thread is so big, I think this as more to do with the sales, but anyway why shouldn't someone be excited about a new console and new games, especially when the previous console (Wii) is pratically dead for new great releases, even by Nintendo?

100% true

I agree, I can't see why people are projecting their own fears onto what this console might be and then getting pissed off, as if those fears were true and Nintendo was personally insulting them?

As for "Cafe", I think in this context it is the commonly used term derived from cafeteria, a place that serves coffee, kind of like a cross between a coffee shop and a bistro. A play on "cafe society" which describes an informal meeting place for all kinds of people. I don't know about North America, but it is a commonly used term here in Europe and, I believe, in Japan.

Apple, probably weren't planning any big moves into gaming with their devices, it just so happened to work out that the set up they had fostered casual gaming on their phones and pads. I see no reason why they should now take a risk on moving into more serious gaming.

I'm sure the Cafe, whatever it turns out to be, will garner a loyal and sizeable following. Nintendo aren't fools and everything I have heard about this new machine, which might, I admit, be nonsense, seems to point to a sensible approach at capturing a broad section of the gaming public, Social, casual, family, AAA, hardcore, puzzlers, whatever. I bet they have a tag line something like "everybody plays" or some such inclusive phrasing.

lol? do you think young teenagers who like COD etc nowadays will even look at the next nintendo console?

nintendo has an image nowadays of 'casual' 'motion controls' 'nintendogs' etc.  there's an audience for all that shit, but the core don't want it, and so the core don't go near nintendo at the minute

there's no way that nintendo can both keep their casual market, and then change their image enough to capture the core market.  you can quote me on that.  for goodness sake nintendo doesn't even have a substantial online service yet.

Just be possitive about this people

The problem Apple will face if they launch a home console is the price of games. Their customers are used to buy games for cheap and third partys won't do anything on their platform if they can't sell their games for 60/70 dollars.