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Kasz216 said:
o_O.Q said:
 


"You don't even understand that the laughable part is that you equate hacking your PS3 with PSN access."

i just asked you "go find me the quote of what i said that led to that hilarious assumption"

you still haven't shown me the quote where i equate the two

"You don't realize that hacking your PS3 is a right, and accessing PSN is just a privilage"

modifying a console and completely unlocking it to the point where it can be used for malicious acts are different things aren't they?

so now i have to ask you where i said that ALL forms of modification shouldn't be allowed? as far as i remeber i was talking about the keys and the exploits that allowed the console to be completely altered for malicious acts

No.  unlocking it to where it can be used for malicious acts is just hacking something really well.

All that matters is when someone does use said unlocked console for malcious acts.

Then the person who specifically does that, gets punished.

If the world worked otherwise, the only videogames we'd be aloud to play would be games like cooking mama.


so therefore according to what you're saying on an individual basis people should be banned when they mess with the network?... if thats the case suppose for example i have 500 seperate matches going on simultaneously in a game online and spread between them i have 100 hackers interfering with them... according to what you're saying the people who want to play their games must suffer while a moderator takes the time to identify whos doing what and ban them... with the keys distributed that would be a constant issue because as some people are banned more people would be able to unlock their system and take their place... as i said before CoD was completely overun with that, to say that the only viable solution is individual banning is imo nonsense as matches would most likely be consistently interfered with



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vlad321 said:
o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:


For someone who was bitching about reading comprehension I can't believe you are interpreting "I can put any amount of swords I want in my car and not give a damn about anything" as meaning that I can take the car on the public roads.

So you are telling me ALL this time you were fine with absolutely all modificatoins to the PS3, as long as some of them were bannable from the PSN, adn that Sony are idiots for trying to restrict modding of PS3s?

why don't you tell me then what it mean't? especially this part : "not give a damn about anything" 

It means I don't have wto worry about any police and laws to modify my car with as much shit as I want. THat does NOT imply that I can take it on a public road. I could on my own private track or whatever though.


good therefore there are restrictions imposed on your USE of your modified property?



o_O.Q said:
Kasz216 said:
o_O.Q said:
 


"You don't even understand that the laughable part is that you equate hacking your PS3 with PSN access."

i just asked you "go find me the quote of what i said that led to that hilarious assumption"

you still haven't shown me the quote where i equate the two

"You don't realize that hacking your PS3 is a right, and accessing PSN is just a privilage"

modifying a console and completely unlocking it to the point where it can be used for malicious acts are different things aren't they?

so now i have to ask you where i said that ALL forms of modification shouldn't be allowed? as far as i remeber i was talking about the keys and the exploits that allowed the console to be completely altered for malicious acts

No.  unlocking it to where it can be used for malicious acts is just hacking something really well.

All that matters is when someone does use said unlocked console for malcious acts.

Then the person who specifically does that, gets punished.

If the world worked otherwise, the only videogames we'd be aloud to play would be games like cooking mama.


so therefore according to what you're saying on an individual basis people should be banned when they mess with the network?... if thats the case suppose for example i have 500 seperate matches going on simultaneously in a game online and spread between them i have 100 hackers interfering with them... according to what you're saying the people who want to play their games must suffer while a moderator takes the time to identify whos doing what and ban them... with the keys distributed that would be a constant issue because as some people are banned more people would be able to unlock their system and take their place... as i said before CoD was completely overun with that, to say that the only viable solution is individual banning is imo nonsense as matches would most likely be consistently interfered with

Ever hear of Steam, and how it deals with hacking?



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:
o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:


For someone who was bitching about reading comprehension I can't believe you are interpreting "I can put any amount of swords I want in my car and not give a damn about anything" as meaning that I can take the car on the public roads.

So you are telling me ALL this time you were fine with absolutely all modificatoins to the PS3, as long as some of them were bannable from the PSN, adn that Sony are idiots for trying to restrict modding of PS3s?

why don't you tell me then what it mean't? especially this part : "not give a damn about anything" 

It means I don't have wto worry about any police and laws to modify my car with as much shit as I want. THat does NOT imply that I can take it on a public road. I could on my own private track or whatever though.


good therefore there are restrictions imposed on your USE of your modified property?

Yes. Therefore Sony has absolutely zero right restricting how I modify their products. They should only start giving a shit once I start hacking on PSN.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

vlad321 said:
o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:
o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:


For someone who was bitching about reading comprehension I can't believe you are interpreting "I can put any amount of swords I want in my car and not give a damn about anything" as meaning that I can take the car on the public roads.

So you are telling me ALL this time you were fine with absolutely all modificatoins to the PS3, as long as some of them were bannable from the PSN, adn that Sony are idiots for trying to restrict modding of PS3s?

why don't you tell me then what it mean't? especially this part : "not give a damn about anything" 

It means I don't have wto worry about any police and laws to modify my car with as much shit as I want. THat does NOT imply that I can take it on a public road. I could on my own private track or whatever though.


good therefore there are restrictions imposed on your USE of your modified property?

Yes. Therefore Sony has absolutely zero right restricting how I modify their products. They should only start giving a shit once I start hacking on PSN.


no it not only extends to the network but also to their games and other external software...



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o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:
o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:
o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:


For someone who was bitching about reading comprehension I can't believe you are interpreting "I can put any amount of swords I want in my car and not give a damn about anything" as meaning that I can take the car on the public roads.

So you are telling me ALL this time you were fine with absolutely all modificatoins to the PS3, as long as some of them were bannable from the PSN, adn that Sony are idiots for trying to restrict modding of PS3s?

why don't you tell me then what it mean't? especially this part : "not give a damn about anything" 

It means I don't have wto worry about any police and laws to modify my car with as much shit as I want. THat does NOT imply that I can take it on a public road. I could on my own private track or whatever though.


good therefore there are restrictions imposed on your USE of your modified property?

Yes. Therefore Sony has absolutely zero right restricting how I modify their products. They should only start giving a shit once I start hacking on PSN.


no it not only extends to the network but also to their games and other external software...

No it doesn't. How does you modifying your console have any bearing on their games? Furthermore their games are not public property, like PSN. They are YOUR property, so you can do with them as you wish as well.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

vlad321 said:
o_O.Q said:
Kasz216 said:
o_O.Q said:
 


"You don't even understand that the laughable part is that you equate hacking your PS3 with PSN access."

i just asked you "go find me the quote of what i said that led to that hilarious assumption"

you still haven't shown me the quote where i equate the two

"You don't realize that hacking your PS3 is a right, and accessing PSN is just a privilage"

modifying a console and completely unlocking it to the point where it can be used for malicious acts are different things aren't they?

so now i have to ask you where i said that ALL forms of modification shouldn't be allowed? as far as i remeber i was talking about the keys and the exploits that allowed the console to be completely altered for malicious acts

No.  unlocking it to where it can be used for malicious acts is just hacking something really well.

All that matters is when someone does use said unlocked console for malcious acts.

Then the person who specifically does that, gets punished.

If the world worked otherwise, the only videogames we'd be aloud to play would be games like cooking mama.


so therefore according to what you're saying on an individual basis people should be banned when they mess with the network?... if thats the case suppose for example i have 500 seperate matches going on simultaneously in a game online and spread between them i have 100 hackers interfering with them... according to what you're saying the people who want to play their games must suffer while a moderator takes the time to identify whos doing what and ban them... with the keys distributed that would be a constant issue because as some people are banned more people would be able to unlock their system and take their place... as i said before CoD was completely overun with that, to say that the only viable solution is individual banning is imo nonsense as matches would most likely be consistently interfered with

Ever hear of Steam, and how it deals with hacking?

i know nof steam but no i'm not sure how it deals with hacking individually?



o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:

Ever hear of Steam, and how it deals with hacking?

i know nof steam but no i'm not sure how it deals with hacking individually?


It deals with them very well.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

vlad321 said:
o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:

Ever hear of Steam, and how it deals with hacking?

i know nof steam but no i'm not sure how it deals with hacking individually?


It deals with them very well.

maybe it does that doesn't mean that it will work for all gaming networks



o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:
o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:

Ever hear of Steam, and how it deals with hacking?

i know nof steam but no i'm not sure how it deals with hacking individually?


It deals with them very well.

maybe it does that doesn't mean that it will work for all gaming networks

What he's saying is that companies who run other gaming networks should take notes from them (and trust me, they can).



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