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Play4Fun on 11 May 2011

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. There are hundreds of systems Nintendo can choose from.

Sure, Valve is known among gamers and choosing it would cause freakouts all over the net and bring hype to an all-time high but it doesn't mean that's what Nintendo will choose.



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fordy on 11 May 2011

That would be nice, but I don't see it happening. I think Nintendo will go with someone that will develop an online system for them, but then hand complete control back to Nintendo. they've been VERY cautious of anyone stepping between them and their services (hardware or online), in fear of them regressing towards becoming a 3rd party developer. I don't see that changing with Project Cafe, either.



Umos-Cmos on 11 May 2011
VetteDude said:

 

In what capacity does steam work on the PS3?  Is it like steam on PC and Mac?  Enlighten me.

 

 

I would love to tell you, but PSN isn't working lol.

Oh SNAP!  But seriously, I don't own a PS3 (only Wii and X360).  Is it fully featured just like on the PC? (assuming they ever get their network up again this year)



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badgenome on 11 May 2011
Umos-Cmos said:

Oh SNAP!  But seriously, I don't own a PS3 (only Wii and X360).  Is it fully featured just like on the PC? (assuming they ever get their network up again this year)

No, so far it just allows for cross-platform co-op and a link between trophies/Steam achievements, I think.



Venji on 12 May 2011

I hope PS3 steam  will eventually do game updating/DLC/Maps for portal 2 and future valve games too. 

Thanks for all the very interesting feedback, I agree with the people who believe it would take a real leap of faith by Ninty to let Valve do the online network, but thats the impression Iwata seems to be giving in his interview - that because of the failure of Ninty inhouse team they are ready to choose a dance partner - and valve is the most attractive one available.  

Valve doesn't need to use Steam it's self, instead they could use some of the framework of steam ( which they can intergrate with there main steam system for there own games) and create a ninty "stream" network with talior made aspects allowing for  3DS connectivity etc.

 



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Umos-Cmos on 12 May 2011
Venji said:

I hope PS3 steam  will eventually do game updating/DLC/Maps for portal 2 and future valve games too. 

Thanks for all the very interesting feedback, I agree with the people who believe it would take a real leap of faith by Ninty to let Valve do the online network, but thats the impression Iwata seems to be giving in his interview - that because of the failure of Ninty inhouse team they are ready to choose a dance partner - and valve is the most attractive one available.  

Valve doesn't need to use Steam it's self, instead they could use some of the framework of steam ( which they can intergrate with there main steam system for there own games) and create a ninty "stream" network with talior made aspects allowing for  3DS connectivity etc.

 

The other thing to take into account is that Nintendo has already used strategic partnerships like Valve before.  They used Gamespy to power their online infrastructure with the DS and the Wii I believe.  To what extent Gamespy was responsible for their network I don't know, but it did say it was powered by Gamespy.



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Venji on 13 May 2011
Umos-Cmos said:
Venji said:

I hope PS3 steam  will eventually do game updating/DLC/Maps for portal 2 and future valve games too. 

Thanks for all the very interesting feedback, I agree with the people who believe it would take a real leap of faith by Ninty to let Valve do the online network, but thats the impression Iwata seems to be giving in his interview - that because of the failure of Ninty inhouse team they are ready to choose a dance partner - and valve is the most attractive one available.  

Valve doesn't need to use Steam it's self, instead they could use some of the framework of steam ( which they can intergrate with there main steam system for there own games) and create a ninty "stream" network with talior made aspects allowing for  3DS connectivity etc.

 

The other thing to take into account is that Nintendo has already used strategic partnerships like Valve before.  They used Gamespy to power their online infrastructure with the DS and the Wii I believe.  To what extent Gamespy was responsible for their network I don't know, but it did say it was powered by Gamespy.

Yes, I guess no one at Nintendo ever used Gamespy Arcade, my heart kind of sank when I heard they were helping back in '06
The fact that they discribe there online system in terms of trying to do it themselves might mean that they kept gamespy's help to a minimum which would explain the clean and simple user interface but lack of useful features and interconnectivity.



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iasta on 13 May 2011

Or maybe they would advance with the ones that make the connectivity of the 3DS? Because its already much better than the one on Wii/DS (but not as Live/PSN level... maybe it will be better after june's update).

If they use 3rd party, i guess it will be a japanese company, as they went with DMP for the 3DS graphic chip on the 3DS instead of "obvious" and rumore choices as Tegra or maybe power vr.



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awesomeX10 on 13 May 2011
Erik Aston said:

All future consoles will have some online elements. Nintendo is stupid or lazy to use an outside company to help develop their online network. They can say "it's not in our DNA" or whatever, but that's ridiculous. They shouldn't be thinking about the next console, but 20 years down the line. Will Nintendo's 10th home console have online functionality? One would assume. So they better start learning how to develop online networks in house, whether by hiring or acquisition or whatever. Simply going out-of-house to develop their online systems is a band-aid.

Honestly, it's kind of a step away from being a first party developer.

More of a stop-gap and at this point it is the best choice, though I agree they need to learn how to atleast maintain and update it themselves and fast but they just don't have the experiance right now to build a whole system for a new console which they need good online for it to be sucessful so hiring outside is fine but they can't make a habit of it