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Play4Fun on 06 May 2011

Eurogamer understands that an E3 2011 reveal for Microsoft's next Xbox is highly unlikely.

Our respected source poured water on Develop's report that some kind of announcement will happen next month at E3.

Develop's report also mentions that EA already has development kits for the new console. To a untrained eye, these apparently look like PCs. But inside are apparently the components of Microsoft's next Xbox.

Prototype dev kits typically are PCs inside a PC box: the first Xbox 360 developer tools were based on dual core G5 PowerPC Macs with an ATI X800 GPU while the initial PS3 dev kits were based around a PC with two GeForce 6800 Ultras running in SLI.

The Develop source believes the new Xbox could launch as soon as the end of 2012.

No technical specifications for the new console were given.

EA and Microsoft both declined comment.

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I always expected this, MS have more reason to launch before Sony does.



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nightsurge on 06 May 2011
Play4Fun said:

I kind of epected this. MS have more reason to launch sooner than Sony does.

And more ability to do so. They've been profitable with the 360 for many years now while the PS3 has only just began to make profits to work against the major losses from earlier on.

I am thinking the new Xbox will have somewhere along the lines of at least 2 GB DDR3 (probably 4), an ATI 5000 series comparable GPU, and a 6-8 core CPU. Support for current Kinects with the ability to support an upgraded Kinect in a few years.  USB 3.0 support as well as multi-band draft N wifi support. Full 3D and 1080p native support. Other than that I'm not sure what other cool surprises may be in store, those are just my basic guesses as it would allow for backwards compatibility and performance gains of 300-400% over current gen hardware.



yo_john117 on 06 May 2011

I thought this was well known...



dahuman on 06 May 2011
nightsurge said:
Play4Fun said:

I kind of epected this. MS have more reason to launch sooner than Sony does.

And more ability to do so. They've been profitable with the 360 for many years now while the PS3 has only just began to make profits to work against the major losses from earlier on.

I am thinking the new Xbox will have somewhere along the lines of at least 2 GB DDR3 (probably 4), an ATI 5000 series comparable GPU, and a 6-8 core CPU. Support for current Kinects with the ability to support an upgraded Kinect in a few years.  USB 3.0 support as well as multi-band draft N wifi support. Full 3D and 1080p native support. Other than that I'm not sure what other cool surprises may be in store, those are just my basic guesses as it would allow for backwards compatibility and performance gains of 300-400% over current gen hardware.

You've just described the new xbox as a cheap PC......



Mr Puggsly on 06 May 2011

MS is in a good place. They are making great profits, Sony is reeling, and Nintendo's new machine likely won't be more powerful than current HD consoles.

They should wait until 2013. They should sell around 80 million 360 units by then and they can probably still get an edge on PS4.



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Mr Khan on 06 May 2011
Mr Puggsly said:

MS is in a good place. They are making great profits, Sony is reeling, and Nintendo's new machine likely won't be more powerful than current HD consoles.

They should wait until 2013. They should sell around 80 million 360 units by then and they can probably still get an edge on PS4.

The power of Cafe thing is highly unlikely, just because Nintendo could so easily outclass them in terms of RAM alone that it own't be as big a deal



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nightsurge on 06 May 2011
dahuman said:
nightsurge said:
Play4Fun said:

I kind of epected this. MS have more reason to launch sooner than Sony does.

And more ability to do so. They've been profitable with the 360 for many years now while the PS3 has only just began to make profits to work against the major losses from earlier on.

I am thinking the new Xbox will have somewhere along the lines of at least 2 GB DDR3 (probably 4), an ATI 5000 series comparable GPU, and a 6-8 core CPU. Support for current Kinects with the ability to support an upgraded Kinect in a few years.  USB 3.0 support as well as multi-band draft N wifi support. Full 3D and 1080p native support. Other than that I'm not sure what other cool surprises may be in store, those are just my basic guesses as it would allow for backwards compatibility and performance gains of 300-400% over current gen hardware.

You've just described the new xbox as a cheap PC......

Cheap? 6-8 core CPU's are still $200-600 a piece, an HD 6000 series (sorry meant 6000 earlier, not 5000) is $150-300, 4GB DDR3 isn't too bad.  If it ends up being cheap enough to produce and sell for $300-400 without taking a loss then all the better to them because it would still be a huge improvement over current gen PS3/360 hardware and way more capable than the rumored Cafe hardware as well.



brendude13 on 06 May 2011

"Project Cafe" should release in Spring 2012

"XBOX 720" should release in Spring 2013

"PS4" should release in Fall 2013

That is when I reckon each console's life cycle would have ended. The Wii was a fast seller but was short lived. The XBOX 360 enjoyed decent sales but it is now dying off, the fact that it is still a powerful console and has momentum from Kinect means that an upgrade isn't needed just yet though. The PS3 had a poor start but since 2009 it has really been hitting its stride. For MS and Nintendo, 2011 is the weakest year for them, for the PS3 it couldn't be any stronger. It is a shame to see the PS3 take off so late into the generation, SONY will have to release their next generation console slightly earlier to compete with Nintendo and MS, even if the PS3 still has life in it at that time.



BenVTrigger on 06 May 2011

Its not gonna happen.

MS will not launch a new console until 2013, I'm absolutely sure of it. What do they have to gain by launching a new console next year? Nothing at all.

Companies are just now really pulling in big profits from development on games and hardware because prices have finally come down due to the tech not being so expensive to make since its not brand new. Why would they be in a huge rush to go build up a ton more debt launching a new console when they could push it off another year and get loads of profits?



dahuman on 06 May 2011
nightsurge said:
dahuman said:
nightsurge said:
Play4Fun said:

I kind of epected this. MS have more reason to launch sooner than Sony does.

And more ability to do so. They've been profitable with the 360 for many years now while the PS3 has only just began to make profits to work against the major losses from earlier on.

I am thinking the new Xbox will have somewhere along the lines of at least 2 GB DDR3 (probably 4), an ATI 5000 series comparable GPU, and a 6-8 core CPU. Support for current Kinects with the ability to support an upgraded Kinect in a few years.  USB 3.0 support as well as multi-band draft N wifi support. Full 3D and 1080p native support. Other than that I'm not sure what other cool surprises may be in store, those are just my basic guesses as it would allow for backwards compatibility and performance gains of 300-400% over current gen hardware.

You've just described the new xbox as a cheap PC......

Cheap? 6-8 core CPU's are still $200-600 a piece, an HD 6000 series (sorry meant 6000 earlier, not 5000) is $150-300, 4GB DDR3 isn't too bad.  If it ends up being cheap enough to produce and sell for $300-400 without taking a loss then all the better to them because it would still be a huge improvement over current gen PS3/360 hardware and way more capable than the rumored Cafe hardware as well.

well, I'm just saying that consoles in the future will need some kind of niche to sell well, I don't think building a cheap PC would make it the king of next gen.