| SvennoJ said: I'm not really interested in either Kinect or Move for this. Seems to me to be a game where you want to sit close to the screen, not stand 8 to 10 ft back. I'll wait for the ps3 version anyway, uncompressed surround sound should suit this nicely. |
you know that you can sit very close to your tv and sit down with the move, right?
you dont have to stand or be far away
osamanobama said:
you dont have to stand or be far away |
Controlling the game with a glowing orb sounds pretty good in itself!
Dr.Grass said:
That might just be a good enough reason for me to upgrade to a 3D TV I'm still in love with my Motionflow LCD though... |
really? i have a LG with trumotion and the happyest day of my life was when i found out how to turn it off. it makes the picture all artificial IMHO
“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”
- George Orwell, ‘1984’
Porcupine_I said:
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Trumotion generates an extra frame between every two frames and while it increases the smoothness of the picture, it can cause blur effects. It runs at 100Hz
Motionflow runs at 200Hz and inserts a black frame before and after every artificial frame. This greatly reduces the 'artificial' look you speak about and eliminates motion blur. The result is a silky smooth image.
Dr.Grass said:
Trumotion generates an extra frame between every two frames and while it increases the smoothness of the picture, it can cause blur effects. It runs at 100Hz Motionflow runs at 200Hz and inserts a black frame before and after every artificial frame. This greatly reduces the 'artificial' look you speak about and eliminates motion blur. The result is a silky smooth image.
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yes, i have seen them all, and they look all terrible to me. 
no really, to me it cheapens the image by making movies like they have been filmed with a handcamera. i can't watch that, it irritates me to no end.
“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”
- George Orwell, ‘1984’
Dr.Grass said:
Trumotion generates an extra frame between every two frames and while it increases the smoothness of the picture, it can cause blur effects. It runs at 100Hz Motionflow runs at 200Hz and inserts a black frame before and after every artificial frame. This greatly reduces the 'artificial' look you speak about and eliminates motion blur. The result is a silky smooth image.
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Just curious, but how does it handle dropped frames and screen tearing, does adding extra frames make that more noticeable?
I would not use for games anyway because of the extra lag. Shift 2 unleashed is already almost unplayable with 300 msec input lag.
For movies it depends on the movie. I guess it would make a mess of something like Akira and other japanamation where the animation elements run at different frame rates. Or movies where the director intentionally uses the 24fps to create a desired effect like in Saving private Ryan.
I guess it looks best with CGI movies and pixar animated features. I don't understand why they don't just render them at 60fps for blu-ray. Most cinemas are digital now, they should be fine with 60fps as well. I'm sure movie directors would love to play with varying framerates for movies.
SvennoJ said:
(1)Just curious, but how does it handle dropped frames and screen tearing, does adding extra frames make that more noticeable? I would not use for games anyway because of the extra lag. Shift 2 unleashed is already almost unplayable with (2)300 msec input lag. For movies it depends on the movie. I guess it would make a mess of something like Akira and other japanamation where the animation elements run at different frame rates. Or movies where the director intentionally uses the 24fps to create a desired effect like in Saving private Ryan. (3) I g uess it looks best with CGI movies and pixar animated features. I don't understand why they don't just render them at 60fps for blu-ray. Most cinemas are digital now, they should be fine with 60fps as well. I'm sure movie directors would love to play with varying framerates for movies. |
1. No it doesn't help (much) when the input itself is at low fps and certainly not for screen tearing. I have however seen remarkable improvement in certain games. The biggest was MGS4. I played MGS4 for 3 days straight on a new, regular Bravia, and then returned it for an LG Motionflow. It was like playing on a more powerful console, as it made it very smooth-especially those cut scenes which seemed to jag quite a bit.
2. Umm, most TV's are about a hundred times faster than that so I doubt that's an issue at all.
3. Avatar on bluray with a motionflow tv is by quite some distance the most amazing visuals I've ever seen, so yes - definitely.
I'm also a little annoyed as I've seen some animated films that were a little disappointing. All this tech is out there, and PC's can render resolutions waaay higher than 1080P, so theres no reason they can't be stable and detailed at 1080P. Not enough visual spectacles out there imho.
Porcupine_I said:
yes, i have seen them all, and they look all terrible to me. no really, to me it cheapens the image by making movies like they have been filmed with a handcamera. i can't watch that, it irritates me to no end. |
''no really, to me it cheapens the image by making movies like they have been filmed with a handcamera. i can't watch that''
Yeah I've seen that effect, and certain types of pictures are more difficult to realistically render. Honestly though, I put my motionflow on full and the tv setting on vivid when wathcing BBC nature vids. So, we might just have different eyes, or there might just be differences in the quality of motionflow TV's.
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