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ninty_shareholder64 on 07 May 2011

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zgamer5 on 07 May 2011
ninty_shareholder64 said:
zgamer5 said:

why will ninty drop the casual market when it comes to consoles? ms can swoop in and take it.


They drop it because when the casual Wii owner buys a 2nd console, he becomes non-casual or hardcore. lol

And obv the Cafe will be Wiimoteplus compatible, i would bet my ass.

no casuals stay casuals based on their gaming tastes and their reasons for gaming.



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Yakuzaice on 07 May 2011
LordTheNightKnight said:


That's not quite what I asked. Where can I find the info on how much it sold and when?


Nintendo has numbers for the fiscal year starting from 1998, and lifetime totals.

OoT launched ~4 months before the end of FY 1999.  Fy 1999 was down 17% WW, and up 9% in Japan (which is the only numbers VGC has).  FY 2000 was also down 17% WW, but it was down 22.3% in Japan.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/historical_data/pdf/consolidated_sales_e1103.pdf

As far as I can tell, the first fiscal year (ending march 1997) was by far the biggest year with 2.03 million shipped in Japan.



ninty_shareholder64 on 07 May 2011
zgamer5 said:
ninty_shareholder64 said:
zgamer5 said:

why will ninty drop the casual market when it comes to consoles? ms can swoop in and take it.


They drop it because when the casual Wii owner buys a 2nd console, he becomes non-casual or hardcore. lol

And obv the Cafe will be Wiimoteplus compatible, i would bet my ass.

no casuals stay casuals based on their gaming tastes and their reasons for gaming.

ah, ok. based on their gaming tastes, interesting, and their reasons for gaming...

lol

The reason for gaming is fun, or not?

Perhaps someone is a hardcore gamer if he solely plays online-FPS and just plays to get trophies even if the game is shit, boring and not fun. That's really hardcore, i think.



Jumpin on 07 May 2011
LordTheNightKnight said:
Jumpin said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Jumpin said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Viper1 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Viper1 said:

Software sells hardware. The early launch period didn't really have much software but starting with the summer period, it's an all out barrage of heavy hitting software.


I just doubt that Zelda will be one of the killer apps. Not that you claimed so. Others have been insisting it, and if it wasn't a killer app for the N64 (Goldeneye was more of one), it won't be one for this system.

OoT wasn't a killer app on the N64?  Are you kidding me?  7.6 million in sales on a 33 million userbase? 


That made it a hit game, not a killer app. Call of Duty sells a lot, but it doesn't tend to give the PS3 and 360 sales boosts (at least not huge ones like with Monster Hunter on PSP and Nintendogs on the DS). These kinds of games tend to sell to the existing customers.

N64 hardware jumped 763% the week Ocarina of Time was released doubling Playstation hardware sales for the week.


Did they stay that way, or was it a flash boost the way the 360 often got in Japan?

Yes, the following year was the N64`s highest selling year.


That's not quite what I asked. Where can I find the info on how much it sold and when?

You can find it on this website and NPD archives across many other websites. I am not sure why you are trying to argue that Ocarina of Time was not a killer application, that seems a little ludicrous when it was one of the main reasons most people got an N64 and it was quite possibly Nintendo`s most anticipated title of all time; only Super Mario Bros. 3 contends that.



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LordTheNightKnight on 07 May 2011
Viper1 said:

I still can't believe you are trying to say the game with the highest aggragated rating in video game history was not a killer app.

 

Also, Yakuzaice is correct about the shipped/sold terminology.  All 3 console makers are required by law to report units sold to retailers, wholesalers, distributors, etc....and we know those figures as 'shipped'.    Now Nintendo does have an in house service called Siras that is a point of sale warranty tracking system but can be used to estimate sales but it's rarely used for that and they will state in the press release the figures are sold to consumers through internal tracking systems...they won't just say 'sold'.   When they say 'sold' by itself, it means shipped.


Um, you're equating review scores with sales? If that was the case, the 360 and PS3 should be the fastest selling systems ever, due to their hight number of highly reviewed games.

Not to mention that GTA IV is close to Ocarina, but the Wii still outsold the other systems around the time.

Now I'm not doubting some people bought the system for Ocarina, but not to the degree that made it a killer app. Maybe an aggravated assault app. Sorry about that godawful pun.



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Ail on 07 May 2011
ninty_shareholder64 said:

Oh, by the way, it's time to rebuy the stocks now. perfect time!


If I had to pick a stock in gaming I woudn't be picking Nintendo.

Right now the stock with the most upside in my view is TTWO ( Which is why I own TTWO stocks and I'm planning to buy more if the price dips a little in the next week).



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PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Alby_da_Wolf on 07 May 2011

@Reggie: Spinning the disaster made by Iwata? Nice try.   



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Viper1 on 07 May 2011
LordTheNightKnight said:
Viper1 said:

I still can't believe you are trying to say the game with the highest aggragated rating in video game history was not a killer app.

 

Also, Yakuzaice is correct about the shipped/sold terminology.  All 3 console makers are required by law to report units sold to retailers, wholesalers, distributors, etc....and we know those figures as 'shipped'.    Now Nintendo does have an in house service called Siras that is a point of sale warranty tracking system but can be used to estimate sales but it's rarely used for that and they will state in the press release the figures are sold to consumers through internal tracking systems...they won't just say 'sold'.   When they say 'sold' by itself, it means shipped.


Um, you're equating review scores with sales? If that was the case, the 360 and PS3 should be the fastest selling systems ever, due to their hight number of highly reviewed games.

Not to mention that GTA IV is close to Ocarina, but the Wii still outsold the other systems around the time.

Now I'm not doubting some people bought the system for Ocarina, but not to the degree that made it a killer app. Maybe an aggravated assault app. Sorry about that godawful pun.

No, I'm mixing the combination of sales, review scores and system sales boost that all suggest it was a killer app.  If Ocarina of Time was not a killer app, then by God, what the hell is?



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LordTheNightKnight on 07 May 2011
Viper1 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Viper1 said:

I still can't believe you are trying to say the game with the highest aggragated rating in video game history was not a killer app.

 

Also, Yakuzaice is correct about the shipped/sold terminology.  All 3 console makers are required by law to report units sold to retailers, wholesalers, distributors, etc....and we know those figures as 'shipped'.    Now Nintendo does have an in house service called Siras that is a point of sale warranty tracking system but can be used to estimate sales but it's rarely used for that and they will state in the press release the figures are sold to consumers through internal tracking systems...they won't just say 'sold'.   When they say 'sold' by itself, it means shipped.


Um, you're equating review scores with sales? If that was the case, the 360 and PS3 should be the fastest selling systems ever, due to their hight number of highly reviewed games.

Not to mention that GTA IV is close to Ocarina, but the Wii still outsold the other systems around the time.

Now I'm not doubting some people bought the system for Ocarina, but not to the degree that made it a killer app. Maybe an aggravated assault app. Sorry about that godawful pun.

No, I'm mixing the combination of sales, review scores and system sales boost that all suggest it was a killer app.  If Ocarina of Time was not a killer app, then by God, what the hell is?


Killer app has nothing to do with reviews. And I still need to see a link to prove the boost was that much (as I've looked and seen some sites that state the year after launch was the highest selling year). And even if it is, the sales of the system were still weak, so it would be on the low end of a killer app.

And what is a killer app? Classic Mario and Classic Sonic are obvious ones. Wii Sports is another. Final Fantasy VII is a bit for the PS1, but Gran Turismo should also be noted. Tetris and Pokemon. Monster Hunter practically saved the PSP in Japan.

Basically a system, game or otherwise, is a hit because people really like the games. If the systems are lackluster that means it didn't have any real killer apps (just minor ones), or else they wouldn't be lackluster.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs