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I want Quebec to be separated from Canada.



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pearljammer said:

On another note - It is quite amazing to see a majority government form with less that 40% of the popular vote. I'm curious if this, or something similar, has happened before. There are now talks of a merger between the Liberals and the NDP from several pundits... it's going to make for an interesting year.


The Liberals scored a majority in 1997 with 38.5% of the pop vote. Distribution is a fickle mistress.

I don't think we'll see a merger. The Liberals are a proud party with an ancient history of power that attracts a lot of ambitious people disinclined to share power. They've been humiliated, but not like the Progressive Conservatives' crushing defeat of '93 or the Bloc last night. The centre has been deflated, but not fractured.

@ Mrstickball

I don't think your facts refute my point. When I use the word 'tectonic,' I mean the trend is broad, and it is gradual. You show me historical data which shows that all three major parties have shifted one unit to the right in a single election cycle. That's exactly the trend I'm talking about, and it's been advancing since the early 80s.

I'll admit I was being a little tongue in cheek when I called the Cons the 'extreme right.' My point was roughly the same as pearljammer's: If the NDP is a radical fringe party, so are the Conservatives.

The fact is that a lot of leftist parties moved hard towards the center in the 90s, tempering ideas of social responsibility with ideas of fiscal responsibility. The results were very successful for the Romanow and Doer provincial governments here in Canada, and Blair's New Labour movement in the UK.



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famousringo said:
pearljammer said:

On another note - It is quite amazing to see a majority government form with less that 40% of the popular vote. I'm curious if this, or something similar, has happened before. There are now talks of a merger between the Liberals and the NDP from several pundits... it's going to make for an interesting year.


The Liberals scored a majority in 1997 with 38.5% of the pop vote. Distribution is a fickle mistress.

I don't think we'll see a merger. The Liberals are a proud party with an ancient history of power that attracts a lot of ambitious people disinclined to share power. They've been humiliated, but not like the Progressive Conservatives' crushing defeat of '93 or the Bloc last night. The centre has been deflated, but not fractured.

@ Mrstickball

I don't think your facts refute my point. When I use the word 'tectonic,' I mean the trend is broad, and it is gradual. You show me historical data which shows that all three major parties have shifted one unit to the right in a single election cycle. That's exactly the trend I'm talking about, and it's been advancing since the early 80s.

I'll admit I was being a little tongue in cheek when I called the Cons the 'extreme right.' My point was roughly the same as pearljammer's: If the NDP is a radical fringe party, so are the Conservatives.

The fact is that a lot of leftist parties moved hard towards the center in the 90s, tempering ideas of social responsibility with ideas of fiscal responsibility. The results were very successful for the Romanow and Doer provincial governments here in Canada, and Blair's New Labour movement in the UK.

It's worth noting though...that almost all politicians reside in that upwards right block.



Slimebeast said:

I want Quebec to be separated from Canada.


What's the deal. I live in Quebec and don't want it to seperate. Why do you want it to?



 

 

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im_sneaky said:
Slimebeast said:

I want Quebec to be separated from Canada.


What's the deal. I live in Quebec and don't want it to seperate. Why do you want it to?


probably because, at times, its like quebec is a spoiled, selfish child.  it always gets more than its siblings, while less deserving and yet its still never good enough.



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MrBubbles said:
im_sneaky said:
Slimebeast said:

I want Quebec to be separated from Canada.


What's the deal. I live in Quebec and don't want it to seperate. Why do you want it to?


probably because, at times, its like quebec is a spoiled, selfish child.  it always gets more than its siblings, while less deserving and yet its still never good enough.

I agree. I don't think that's a good enough reason to seperate.



 

 

I actually worked for Elections Canada this year. Man was that a royal pain in the butt. Had to get up at 5:30 and stand from 6-7:30 with no lunch or bathroom breaks. Then I was stuck at the polling station till all the votes were counted.

But I'm pretty happy considering I voted Conservative and they won a majority. Yayz its awsome I was totally caught off guard. I expected a minority Conservative Government. I was 90% sure that Jack Layton was going to over throw the Government with a Liberal/NDP/Bloc coalition.

I was so sure I was going to wake up to Prime Minister Jack Layton addressing the country with his coalition Government. Considering he himself said a coalition Government was a democratic right and in the constitution.

But now that we have a Conservative Majority I don't have to worry about that till 2015. Then again I would rather see an NDP Government then a Liberal.



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Joelcool7 said:

I actually worked for Elections Canada this year. Man was that a royal pain in the butt. Had to get up at 5:30 and stand from 6-7:30 with no lunch or bathroom breaks. Then I was stuck at the polling station till all the votes were counted.

But I'm pretty happy considering I voted Conservative and they won a majority. Yayz its awsome I was totally caught off guard. I expected a minority Conservative Government. I was 90% sure that Jack Layton was going to over throw the Government with a Liberal/NDP/Bloc coalition.

I was so sure I was going to wake up to Prime Minister Jack Layton addressing the country with his coalition Government. Considering he himself said a coalition Government was a democratic right and in the constitution.

But now that we have a Conservative Majority I don't have to worry about that till 2015. Then again I would rather see an NDP Government then a Liberal.

Wow, that sucks. I've worked multiple US elections, and we don't have to deal with that. All votes are tabulated electronically, which meant the total time it took to count votes was ~30 minutes while we packed the machines up. For food, we usually had family either bring us something, or merely brought something early to keep. Did have to get there earlier/stay later than you (got there at 5:30, opened at 6, and stayed till 8 at night).



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