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the_wizard_man said:
fordy said:
the_wizard_man said:
fordy said:
What about the people who don't use facebook for that very reason?

People CHOOSE to release info on facebook. Sony shouldn't have that choice for them.

So are you suggesting someone hacked Sony to get a single specific persons info thats riddicules 


No, what I am suggesting is that hackers got information from uers that they could otherwise not get from anywhere else. What right does Sony have to alow this to happen?

What right does a girl have to let someone rape her


So you want Sony to face the full force of the law? Yes, you're right! Glad we're on the same page.



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o_O.Q said:

@rath

a simple google search ( that took me a minute ) yields these :

engadget ( dot ) com/2011/03/18/rsa-hacked-data-exposed-that-could-reduce-the-effectiveness-o/

downloadsquad ( dot ) switched ( dot ) com/2011/02/11/eharmony-hacked-usernames-and-emails-stolen/

digg ( dot ) com/news/technology/Pirate_Bay_Hacked_2

and several more... this is what i mean by people buying into this propaganda... you seem to suddenly assume that all other networks are invulnerable to these kind of breaches... when its glaringly obvious that they aren't... given the time and the determination hackers can breach ANY network

Once again none of those data leaks was anywhere near on the scale of the PSN leak. The closest would be the Pirate Bay hack which lost 4M users data (still only a fraction of the ~90M users lost by Sony), however that data was also far less extensive than the data lost by Sony consisting mainly of username/email.

Once again the PSN/SoE breach was on a much larger scale than normal. To claim leaks like this are common is simply false, hacks on this scale are very rare.



Who on earth would use their real information for Pirate Bay LOL!



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

Kasz216 said:

You can tell a situation is bad when people feel the need to register to make illogical arguements to protect their company of choice.

"But other companies might be as negligent but just luckier to not be hacked!"

Hm....

"But other people shoplift and they don't get caught."

"But other people leave their keys in the car, and their cars don't get stolen"


Yeah.. still sounds stupid.

After reading through this entire thread I have to say this is the post that I agree with most. 

Seriously I cannot fathom how people can be like that :S



godemperor said:

12,700 credit cards? This does not seems like the kinda of number some random guys pull out of thin air. Hope this does not hurt Sony too badly.

I for one hope this doesn't hurt the credit card holders.



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o_O.Q said:

The funny thing about sony being accused over this stuff is the assumptions made by people that other networks are guaranteed to be more secure.

 

No. They're being accused of not sufficiently protecting their customer's private information and not informing them promptly. It's not funny either.



fordy said:
the_wizard_man said:
fordy said:


No, what I am suggesting is that hackers got information from uers that they could otherwise not get from anywhere else. What right does Sony have to alow this to happen?

What right does a girl have to let someone rape her


So you want Sony to face the full force of the law? Yes, you're right! Glad we're on the same page.

Do not feed the trolls. You feed trolls by responding to them. Noone is reading his words and thinking "he makes a good point." I know it's easier said than done, but just walk away. It's like the people that would argue in Sony Defense Force comments. Don't get yourself worked up. Life gets so much better when you can read what guys like him say, lean back and smirk, and just ignore it.



makingmusic476 said:

As I said in the other thread, this wasn't a second attack.  This was part of the first attack, only it wasn't until yesterday that SOE had become aware that they had also been hit.

Also, I'm not sure why people are giving Sony so much shit over this.  The attack was so severe the FBI and Homeland Security have gotten involved.  You're going to stop buying their products because some really damn good hackers decided Sony was their next target?





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what was the scale of the eharmony hack? i don't remember seing it posted or the rsa? furthermore the pirate bay hack as far as i remember from reading also gave up info like ip addresses



@reviniente

"No. They're being accused of not sufficiently protecting their customer's private information and not informing them promptly."

what have i ever said that contradicts this?

all i've ever commented on was that people are foolishly making assumptions that data leaks are rare in the context of networks like sony nothing m ore nothing less you're like the third person who's tried to put words in my mouth figuratively

i've always agreed that sony should have taken better care in updating their network and that they were negligent for that... however in terms of the time they released the info as far as i know they brought in external parties to investigate the situation and as a result they were not sure right away about what happened and only had conclusive evidence at the time they made the report... but the argument can be made that if there was a possibility of data loss they should still have at least released a statement on that ( in terms of this im not really sure suppose no loss had occured and people were inconvenienced because of assuptions made in terms of making changes that didn't need to be made )