You don't understand, it's not a matter of quantity... so what if there are 20 PS3 exclusives? None of them appeal to a large part of the userbase except for Uncharted. Most of the sales will go in multiplat games.  The same goes for Xbox 360 who cares of how many Kinect games are going to be released if nobody wants them? In the end, depending on your tastes, exclusives mean nothing if you're not interrested in them. As for DC2... I might be wrong but I'm sure I read somewhere Harmonix wanted to release DC2 this holyday... still that game brought way more joy for me and my family than TM ever would, it's all about one's taste.

I don't have a PS3 myself, my roomate does so we share. Demon Soul is still the best PS3 game and to him L4D is the best 360 game... a matter of taste.

I doubt PS3 users would switch just because PSN is down it doesn't make sense. I wouldn't. The games are what's most important... but if you solely play online multiplat games then I would understand.

AAA generally implies the budget of the game. and i like how you are taking jabs at KZ and GT as if 84 is somehow not great scores. its especially great since review stanards have changes drastically since November 2010.

i already said, you may very well like what ever kinect game or xbla game (though you shouldnt say that since you wont play any of the ps3 games to compare). thats your opinion. but Kinect/xbla game line up cannot be compared to the ps3 big budget AAA exclusive, nor the xbox AAA games for that matter.

lastly no one is asking you and trying to pursade you to trade in you beloved xbox for a ps3. no one cares which system you have. its clear you have a preference, and have zero intent on playing anything ps3. thats fine. thats opinion.

whats not opinion is the amount of quality exclusives coming out for each system. and that was my point.

this thread was about will ps3 owners switch. and i said no, not at all, for this very reason.

Yea, but many of PS3's exclusives never made it outside of Japan. I think on North American and european shores, the total number of exclusives is still slightly more on the 360, but the different really isn't that big. However ontop of that, a 360 timed exclusive is cheaper to buy as it's an older game.

As for fall 2011 - Twisted Metal was originally an arcade game. How can you call this a hot AAA title, but a likely Panzer Dragoon game casual. How old are you, Panzer Dragoon is one of the best franchises in gaming, seeing a new installment is just as big, if not bigger, then a new Twisted Metal.

As for The Last Guardian, that's a 2012 title, it was delayed a long while ago, so get your facts straight. If you want to count this game, then you have to count Cryteks 360 exclusive Project Kingdoms, or Alan Wake 2. Also KZ3 and LBP2 already released. I was only refering to upcoming games because people someone said "PS3 has significanly more games then 360's 2 games coming out" which isn't true.

So for the rest of 2011, PS3 Basically only has Resistance 3, Uncharted 3, and InFamous 2. That's a 3:2 ratio between the more major 9/10 games from PS3 to 360. Microsoft always announces a game late, and there is strong rumor of a Halo: Combat Evolved remake, so after E3 this list could even out.

ICO Collection will be a great game, I only refer to it as modest because it won't be a console seller like Uncharted 3 or Gears 3 will be. This is a game for people who already own a PS3 and missed out on those games on the PS2. It's impact on console sales will be no stronger then Rise of Nightmares exclusive for 360, so if were going to ignore at least 3 quality Kinect games (Steel Batallion, Project Dracon, and Rise of Nightmares among others like Haunt, Michael Phelps, Heavy Fire: Afghanistan, and Codename D), it's fair to ignore games like this and Twisted Metal (which I'll repeat, was originally intended to be a PSN title).

Before Forza 3 began to be bundled the game was a 3.3 million sales. You're making up information without a source. Forza 3 later jumped to 4.8 million after the holiday season, and with the 15k weekly sales post holiday bundle, and the jump in sales during the release of the Ultimate Edition with Stigs Cars, it's unlikely the bundled added more then 1 million sales.

When I say Forza 4, Gears 3, and Uncharted 3 will be the only 5 million plus selling exclusive, I base it off prior game sales, and trends. Forza 2 sold 4 million units with about half of those sales due to bundles, Forza 3 is on its way to over 5 million sales with only 1 million as part of the bundle, now that Forza has established itself as the best rated racing sim, it's likely Forza 4 will break 5 million without bundles.

As for Gears 3, it's pretty self explanitory with Gears 1 and 2 selling around 6 million, and Uncharted 3 will likely sell at least as well as Uncharted 2, which should break 5 million.

LOL! funny thats what I think of 360 exclusives in general.....

First of all, Forza 3 sold 3.3 million units according to VGC before the Forza 3/Alan Wake bundle was released. It is extremely biased to ignore that. Also after the bundle ended last fall, Forza 3 was still selling 10-15k weekly off hard copies, and still is. This is about 50% as well as GT5, a game one year newer.

Also before Forza 4 comes out, Forza 3 will have crossed 5 million sales. It currently sits at 4.80 million units, and is selling approximatly 10k weekly. That means that in 20 weeks, so long as it sells this well, it will break 5 million. Sales will likely drop over the slower summer months, but by the time holiday sales boost Forza 3 sales, it will have crossed 5 million.

1) Twisted Metal isn't released yet, and my point was not regarding games already released in 2011. I was strictly refering to upcoming games.

Yes PS3 saw more exclusives then 360 in the first 4 months of 2011, but I'm not adressing that. Total exclusives 360 is still probably higher then PS3, do you not remember how few PS3 exclusives there were prior to 2009?

2) People are not excluding Sorcery when they list upcoming PS3 exclusives, but are excluding every single Kinect exclusive. I am only refering to games with an announced release date.

• Heavy Fire: Afghanistan - September 30th
• Project Draco - 2011 for Americas, as said when announced
• Rise of Nightmares - June 2011
• Seseme Street - 2011 for Americas (included as a joke)
• Steel Batallion - 2011 for Americas, as said when announced

Notice how I did not include many other 2011 Kinect titles such as

• Codename D - 2011 for Americas
• Michael Phelps - June 6th
• Wipeout in the Zone - Q3 2011

Nor how I did not include games without confirmed 2011 release dates?

• Haunt (no release date)
• Kinectallons (no release date)

So where am I counting games with no release dates? I counted Uncharted 3, InFamous 2, Resistance 3, Gears 3, and Forza 4 as the only major franchise sales. I did not forget the Move games, nor compose any list excluding those games, I just mentioned that many people here are including Move games, and Twisted Metal, but ignoring major Kinect titles, which makes a very unfair and biased comparision.

Besides, did anyone not know that Playstation Move Heros is already out? Why are people including this game in upcoming PS3 games? The only Move exclusive unreleased title is Sorcery. That's 1 game, which has no announced 2011 release date, so why should I include it on any list?

So what arguement are you bringing? There are no currently announced Move exclusives for 2011. There are 8 confirmed Kinect exclusive 360 titles announced. However, you right, not much is known about Codename D or Wipeout, so excluding those games, that's still 6 good exclusive Kinect games. On a strict number comparision, 360 has more exclusives overall.

I mean just add 360: 6 Kinect games 2 blockbuster games = 8 (and this may be 9 if a Halo remake is confirmed)

PS3: 0 Move games 3 blockbuster games ICO Collection Twisted Metal = 5

3) InFAMOUS is not a sub 2 million seller. its already at 1.95 million

This is a contradiction. InFamous 1 IS sub 2 million. Lifetime it will exceed that, but what I said is not wrong in any way. Please stop attacking me on every single PS3 comment I make (but never supporting my MS comments), and then claiming that I am the biased one.

As for Resistance, 2.15 million is not much above 2 million. Now you're just getting picky, and really have no right no call be biased for this.

4) Twisted Metal started off as an Arcade PSN title. None of the 360 exclusives mentioned began as Arcade titles. They always were full fledged games, many releasing in the peak holiday window. I see no difference from the scale of a new Panzer Dragoon Kinect and a Twisted Metal PSN being made into a console game.

WOW....

basically your line up for 360 to combat ps3 is a bunch of unannounced titles and specualtions?you keep on bringing up that alan wake 2 and halo remake shit wheres your proof? if thats the case lets throw in unannounced games that sony first party are developing shall we? hmm lets see sonybend game,sony santa monica 2 game being developed rumour,starhawk,Quantic new ps3 exclusive,sony cambridge,sony london studio,heavenly sword 2 rumor....you also keep on putting kinect titles but no PSmove? I doesnt matter either way  even if you dont list em you can still name more than 5 games for ps3 2011 line up unlike for 360 which you need to pull every thing just to match ps3's.

you guys like to throw your "MS announces games late" BULL CRAP when  games like alan wake or conviction was revealed in fukin 2005 or games like fable 2 and gears 2 which was announce year or 2 ago before its released.

Finally to finish this off notice how even if I dont include a bunch of rumored and speculated titles aswell as PSmove crap on ps3 line up it still can match everything 360 got to offer down the line while you need to name unannounced games and kinects just to even it out with ps3.....YUP no big difference there(rolls eye).

Not really thinking about switching to a 360 as I've had a 360 since long before I had a PS3. I am thinking about selling my PS3 (FF13 Lightning edition) though. I don't really use it for much besides F@H and watching Blu-Ray movies. Since I put together my new computer though I was thinking about buying a blu-ray burner for it and using that to watch BD movies instead as well as replacing my crappy dvd burner. (already have my PC connected to my TV). Pretty good pioneer blu-ray burner is only about $100 or so.

Also thinking about selling my PSP as the buyback price is still very high for it here in Japan. The PSP is very popular here for some reason, but I never really play my PSP 3000.

exactly a matter of taste right? so a console with 20 exclusives can appeal to more people right?

out of the ps3 exclusives i'll get 3 or 4, out of the xbox360 exclusives there's nothing i want, it's as simple as that, it's a matter of variety so dont pretend it doesnt help a console to have more exclusives and a wider variety of genres within them.

okay most of you points were addressed already so i will make this (somewhat) brief.

your arguement is very illogical.

your including kinect games that had about one e3 trailer last year, revealing little to nothing about the game. we still dont know anything about the games, other than it will be on rails. going as far as they are confirmed for this year. becasue at e3 2010, they had a vague release date of 2011. several move games had the same thing and for some reason your counting them against titles like R3, Uncharted, Twisted Metal, gears, and forza.

i never counted any move games, dont know why you said i am.

Twisted Metal is not an Arcade game, when sony first contracted them it was planned as so, but both  Sony and eat sleep play. loved the game so much they went all out. making a full fledged game. its a huge game content wise. and apparently they want it to be huge, sales wise as well. the arent releasing it in October for no reason..

Forza reached its sales because its priced was slashed a few days after launch, and was bundled like crazy. my arguement was against you saying gears and forza are bigger than UC2, R3, infamous, saying forza is 5 million seller. then defending that by saying it will eventually reach 5 million. but at the same time calling infamous (while implying the series) was sub 2 miilion. but its will very very soon surpase that. so which is it are we factoring in future sales or not. cant have it both ways.

also, you limiting games to the second part of the year is stupid, you just arbitrarly limiting the ps3 games to make it seem as if xbox has similar amount. well i could just say ps3 has way more games after september. and just look at that time frame, but i would make sense. the ps3 has had already about 5 big exclusives release this year, and you just dont want to count them.

ps: know i did not realize any lack of exclusive prior to 2009. ps3 had a ton

oops, that wasnt brief at all.