leo-j said: I think bioshock was Underrated, didnt even sell a million.

what are you talking about it has sold 1.39 million so far only on 360

daactualfact said: zombier said: First post!!! Ive been reading vgchartz forums for awhile and i must say you are some of the biggest nintendo fanboys ever. Its actually kind of pathetic to be a fanboy of a certain company in the first place. I actually own bioshock and smg and im positive the guys who say smg wins bioshock is overrated, never played bioshock so why are you posting your biased opinion? Now as someone who owns and has played both ill have to say SMG is the best game to come out this year, but bioshock def made the fps fun again. SMG was just sooo much fun and mario is such an important game when it comes out, and this one def delivered and showed alot of promise for the wii games to come. who are you talking about? (i'm just wondering. it seemed directed toward lots of us. i'm not a fanboy though as I have all 3... make that 4 game consoles. including the ps2!) this is just in case you are directing this towards me!

it was directed towards people who havent even played both games and just call it a generic shooter. It was not one bit generic with its great story based on a great book, amazing graphics and art direction, great voice acting, plasmids by itself make it not generic. im just sick of these immature fanboys and useless biased opinions

I have played Bioshock and it was a disappointment after the praise heaped upon it. I absolutely loved the bathysphere ride into Rapture, but inside it was too dark and cluttered for the art deco style to really come through. The story was intriguing and the "Was Andrew Ryan right?" debate that the storyline implied was good but forced, but the storytelling itself seemed, like the design, to be cluttered as well at times. Certain story elements seemed really silly and really stood out badly in a story that mostly took itself seriously. The repetition of enemies and the fact that half of the tonics and plasmids are useless made the combat more of a nuisance than something enjoyable.

For the record, my favorite single player PC game of all time would have to be Max Payne. Max Payne was a game with vastly more enjoyable combat, a magnificently executed visual style, and a lovably cheesy writing style with fantastic voice acting. Yet it got reviews averaging in the upper 80s to low 90s as opposed to the mid to upper 90s scores that Bioshock got.

I strongly believe that, for various reasons, reviewers wanted Bioshock to be a masterpiece even though it wasn't. I think that one of those reasons is that they wanted a mature game to prove that gaming can be taken seriously as art and they picked the wrong candidate. I think another reason is that many reviewers recognized that the System Shock games never saw the success they deserved and so they wanted to see Bioshock succeed where it's predecessors failed. Essentially, this is an example of where reviewers either consciously or unconsciously use their reviews to try to shape the path of the gaming industry. I think that Bioshock IS a step in the right direction, but it's not the great leap forward they proclaimed it to be.

zombier said: First post!!! Ive been reading vgchartz forums for awhile and i must say you are some of the biggest nintendo fanboys ever. Its actually kind of pathetic to be a fanboy of a certain company in the first place. I actually own bioshock and smg and im positive the guys who say smg wins bioshock is overrated, never played bioshock so why are you posting your biased opinion? Now as someone who owns and has played both ill have to say SMG is the best game to come out this year, but bioshock def made the fps fun again. SMG was just sooo much fun and mario is such an important game when it comes out, and this one def delivered and showed alot of promise for the wii games to come.

 So is that screed that I just wrote enough to convince you that I've played Bioshock?

Bioshock. SMG is way overrated.

Hahahaha!! All of this "that is overrated... no THIS is overrated!!" BS. Both games were awesome. I enjoyed Bioshock, played it through twice to get all of the achievements. I found SMG to be the better game out of the two though. I couldn't help but have a blast playing it.

By the way, both of them are overrated.

Arkk said: Hahahaha!! All of this "that is overrated... no THIS is overrated!!" BS. Both games were awesome. I enjoyed Bioshock, played it through twice to get all of the achievements. I found SMG to be the better game out of the two though. I couldn't help but have a blast playing it. By the way, both of them are overrated.

Truth

Fimbulvetr said: Bioshock. SMG is way overrated.

why is way overrated?

I think Leo-J just doesn't know what he's talking about. He posts one line at a time that contridicts previous posts. What a f***ing waste of internet space.

I personally liked SMG better, Bioshock definately had a better story but it was the same shit thats been regurgitated in every FPS survival horror.

zombier said: daactualfact said: zombier said: First post!!! Ive been reading vgchartz forums for awhile and i must say you are some of the biggest nintendo fanboys ever. Its actually kind of pathetic to be a fanboy of a certain company in the first place. I actually own bioshock and smg and im positive the guys who say smg wins bioshock is overrated, never played bioshock so why are you posting your biased opinion? Now as someone who owns and has played both ill have to say SMG is the best game to come out this year, but bioshock def made the fps fun again. SMG was just sooo much fun and mario is such an important game when it comes out, and this one def delivered and showed alot of promise for the wii games to come. who are you talking about? (i'm just wondering. it seemed directed toward lots of us. i'm not a fanboy though as I have all 3... make that 4 game consoles. including the ps2!) this is just in case you are directing this towards me! it was directed towards people who havent even played both games and just call it a generic shooter. It was not one bit generic with its great story based on a great book, amazing graphics and art direction, great voice acting, plasmids by itself make it not generic. im just sick of these immature fanboys and useless biased opinions

You know, you should think for a moment before posting. Even i do it from time to time. I haven't played Bioshock, but i still can say, that SMG is a better game. And why can i say that? It's because Bioshock doesn't fit to my favourite genres. Unlike SMG. And there's another thing, after MP3 set new high for FP games controls, i don't think i enjoy playing FP games with clumsy dual analog or handicapped KB+mouse like i do on Wii Remote+ Nunchuck. Now, i'm not saying Bioshock would be a bad game by any means, it actually is my number two most interesting shooter at the moment, right after Umbrella Chronicles. And besides, i have heard almost nothing but good about Bioshock, biggest complain being that it doesn't live up to System Shock 2. And welcome to VGChartz on my behalf. I hope we will be seeing you around in the future too.