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psrock on 26 April 2011
fps_d0minat0r said:
Acevil said:
rocketpig said:
fps_d0minat0r said:

WOW.....just f***ing WOW.

its everyones fault except the hackers.

people need to stop being delusional....im out of here before i go crazy reading this crap.

Of course it's the hackers' fault. They took the data.

It's also Sony's fault for not stopping them.

When building an online system, one has to go in with the mindset that every person on the planet is going to try to exploit it. Sony obviously failed to keep that in mind.


Rocketpig, you can try to argue with people all you want, but you are talking to bunch of individuals that believes sony as an organization does no wrong. 


EDIT: intentionally does no wrong.

its the intentions that matter. its not like they left the keys outside the doors like in someones failed analogy.

It was Sony's Network, they knew for a week our info was exploited but said nothing, you really can't defend Sony with this one. I see class action Suit very soon. 

Great job hackers btw, always looking out for us. 



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vlad321 on 26 April 2011
fps_d0minat0r said:
vlad321 said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
Acevil said:
rocketpig said:
fps_d0minat0r said:

WOW.....just f***ing WOW.

its everyones fault except the hackers.

people need to stop being delusional....im out of here before i go crazy reading this crap.

Of course it's the hackers' fault. They took the data.

It's also Sony's fault for not stopping them.

When building an online system, one has to go in with the mindset that every person on the planet is going to try to exploit it. Sony obviously failed to keep that in mind.


Rocketpig, you can try to argue with people all you want, but you are talking to bunch of individuals that believes sony as an organization does no wrong. 


EDIT: intentionally does no wrong.

its the intentions that matter. its not like they left the keys outside the doors like in someones failed analogy.

Intentoin don't men absolutely jack shit. The end result is that Sony was not careful, now millions of people's information could be compromised.

Furthermore, I see that you are unable to follow a simple analogy so I will spell it out for you. Sony assumed that the PS3 will not be hacked and based its security system around that assumption. In this case the keys are hacked PS3s, the paper box is the PS3 security, and the door is the access to the PSN servers. THe only reason I made a mistake in my analogy is that I forgot to mention that inside my door, millions of people trusted me with their information and they assumed the door will not be broken into.


millions of people also trust the bank wont be robbed....they still get robbed. is it the banks fault?


Do you know what FDIC is? If you do do you know how it works? Given that, do you realize what the hassle is to the consumer? Now compare those "problems" to the problems you run into when your information is leaked and what do you get?

If you have answered all of the questions up to this point correctly, you will realize why your bank analogy is yet another failure.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

vlad321 on 26 April 2011
NiKKoM said:

teehee PSN log is available: http://shockwavelounge.blogspot.com/2011/04/playstation-network-log-of-hacker.html

no need to blame geohot or any other hackers... we can only blame Sony now... Fake Virus Creator and Javascript injection... which.. anyone from anywhere can do...


I was just looking at that. This is too embarassing to be true. I am not sure what the link is where they gathered the logs from is though.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

Kudistos Megistos on 26 April 2011
fps_d0minat0r said:

millions of people also trust the bank wont be robbed....they still get robbed. is it the banks fault?

Yes. Banks are usually expected to foot the bill when they get robbed, as long as they still have some money left in the kitty.



vlad321 on 26 April 2011
Kudistos Megistos said:
fps_d0minat0r said:

millions of people also trust the bank wont be robbed....they still get robbed. is it the banks fault?

Yes. Banks are usually expected to foot the bill when they get robbed, as long as they still have some money left in the kitty.


I think that up to $100k the FDIC makes sure you will get your money no matter what.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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Shadowblind on 26 April 2011
badgenome said:
rocketpig said:
hatmoza said:

You hate Sony, we get it.


Yep, that's why the only console sitting in my living room right now is a Playstation 3.

No wonder you hate Sony so much.

I've never lol'd like that on this site before. Good show.

OT: Makes me glad I never input credit card numbers into this sort of thing,  but people should never have to worry about their #s getting taken over something as silly as virtual gaming. Is it that hard to update security for a network thats generating you so much $?



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Cougarman on 26 April 2011

i just watched live feed of sony's briefing on what to do about the pirates attack on playstation network, video below

 



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Xbbjf9s on 26 April 2011
Cougarman said:

i just watched live feed of sony's briefing on what to do about the pirates attack on playstation network, video below

 

can't see it, what did they say?



vlad321 on 26 April 2011
Xbbjf9s said:
Cougarman said:

i just watched live feed of sony's briefing on what to do about the pirates attack on playstation network, video below

 

 

can't see it, what did they say?

I think this sums up the entirety of that video:



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

Squilliam on 26 April 2011

In this instance it has been one long string of failures by Sony to both protect itself and protect it's users. Sure you can blame the hackers but at the same time Sony has failed to offer the expected amount of due dilligence to protect itself.



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