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Jdevil3 said:
vlad321 said:

These are the same people who had the idea of using a rootkit as DRM for music. Imagine that meeting:

-We need a way to not get our CDs copied

-Let's use this software, though it basically acts as malware and leaves a gaping hole in a person's system

-Should be fine let's roll it out

 

Given what they pulled with that a few years ago, this scenario is actually kind of hilarious.


Knowing Sony, they probably didn't even know their CDs would leave gaping holes in someone's PC. LOL

Touche, it probably sounded like the best idea ever to them. I have to give one thing to Sony, they are consistently terrible with security.



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The bank is not to completely blame if it were robbed. Fact.

If your house was robbed, you are not to be blamed. The one who robs is to be blamed.

Putting so much blame on Sony is understandable in this situation, but is going too far in some people's cases. 

However the hate is understandable. Credit card info leak is no joke, as is the name and address stuff.

I just hope that Sony manages itself out of this and people's info is not completely compromised and this was just a bad hacker joke.



imaprettyhotguy said:
rocketpig said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
rocketpig said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
rocketpig said:

Is that this security breach was a server-side flaw. "Hacking" a PS3 shouldn't give anyone access to critical PSN information any more than hacking a computer or install of Firefox would give you access to Amazon's customer database.

The tools to defend against this type of attack have been available for years. I can build a secure e-commerce store in a matter of hours and get it locked down to prevent this type of information breach using off-the-shelf software. Why can't Sony do the same on their PROPRIETARY system?

No matter whether you think Sony was in the right over the Geohotz fiasco, they royally screwed the pooch on this one.

And that is no one's fault but their own. They deserve every bit of bad press they're going to get over this.

Can you do it on a massive amount of worldwide servers that were built half a decade ago? Didn't think so, and I'm pretty sure whoever got into psn could easily get past whatever defences you can make 

Well, I certainly hope Sony has more than one person manning their security department.

It takes time to do it on a massive network like this, and you have to take it down to do it, so basically if Sony did upgrade it earlier it would have been taken down anyways, and people would be complaining about them taking it down for no reason, and there haven't been problems till recently so there wasn't a real need, so yeah, and cheaters and pirates are abundant on live, so they aren't any better I just don't get what you want, actually I do you want to eat your cake and have it too, and that just can't happen 

If the security hole wasn't there, they wouldn't have to take down the network at all. Ever heard of cloud servers? They're built just for this kind of work. Scale up, offload repairs, shut down part of the network, and upgrade, rotate to the next batch of servers. Networks do it all the time and the end user is never the wiser.

Every secrurity system has flaws, and the longer ago it was built the easier it is to break into, and again there wasn't any issues until recently and there are probably a dozen other issues that neither of us are even qualified to speculate about why that wasn't an option for Sony, so stop your whinning 


Every security system does have flaws but there are basic things you're supposed to get right.  Sony did a wonderful job on the hard stuff with the PS3 but they failed pretty hard on the basic stuff.



so if i kick in your door and steal your belongings, it will be your fault because you had a crap lock? and no-one should have sympathy for you? and a family member who left some things which also got stolen should blame it on you?



fps_d0minat0r said:

so if i kick in your door and steal your belongings, it will be your fault because you had a crap lock?


That is such a terrible analogy.

If I left my keys in a little paper box outside my door, and trusted no one would ever open the paper box, then someone came around opened it and came into my house, then it would be entirely my fault I was dumb enough to leave my keys in a paper box.



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I think you should go further : I blame the PSN users, they knew how dangerous the internet was and put their precious info on them.



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fps_d0minat0r said:

so if i kick in your door and steal your belongings, it will be your fault because you had a crap lock?

No, if you kick someone else's door in and they have other people's credit card information lying around for all to see, then they get blamed for having a crap lock.

A company that has personal data about others has to do everything in its power to keep that data safe. That's just how the law works, at least where I live. Hopefully, that's how it works in Japan too.



can't we just blame a random poster on this site?

It's all hatmoza's fault!

I feel better now...



 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

NiKKoM said:

can't we just blame a random poster on this site?

It's all hatmoza's fault!

I feel better now...


It's all yo mamma's fault!

I feel better now...



psrock said:

I think you should go further : I blame the PSN users, they knew how dangerous the internet was and put their precious info on them.


I kind of agree with this. Whenever I have to buy anything with my address, I put all my data in and don't save whatever can be stored. Afterwards I delete anything saved, like billing addres, and make a new one where I just bang my hands on the keyboard and save that.

I also noticed that this also prevents stupid impulse pruchases on my part. Not only am I safe, but I also save money on worthless stuff I may have bought.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835