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poroporo said:

jesus kung fu magic said:

Why is everyone complaining about Credit card info?

Unless you have forgotten .........THEY HAVE YOUR PS3 BROWSER HISTORY!!!!

 


Oh no, they'll figure out that I've never used it. :O

Haha, you said it. I was thinking it.



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Blah blah blah Sony sucks and can't implement security blah blah blah It's their own fault they deserve it blah

blah hackers are not bad people blah

...

I can't play Portal due to hackers. PSN is a free service that has given me tons of pleasure. Not really liking this Sony-bashing. Not because I'm a 'blind fanboy', but because I feel it wrong to condemn a company that has succeeded in giving me fantastic value for money over the last 15 years when clearly it's a direct result of an illegal intrusion.

When PSN is back on and I'm still not paying anything for it then I'll be happy to forget about this whole affair.



rocketpig said:

Is that this security breach was a server-side flaw. "Hacking" a PS3 shouldn't give anyone access to critical PSN information any more than hacking a computer or install of Firefox would give you access to Amazon's customer database.

The tools to defend against this type of attack have been available for years. I can build a secure e-commerce store in a matter of hours and get it locked down to prevent this type of information breach using off-the-shelf software. Why can't Sony do the same on their PROPRIETARY system?

No matter whether you think Sony was in the right over the Geohotz fiasco, they royally screwed the pooch on this one.

And that is no one's fault but their own. They deserve every bit of bad press they're going to get over this.

Is there anything that's hack proof?






jesus kung fu magic said:

Why is everyone complaining about Credit card info?

Unless you have forgotten .........THEY HAVE YOUR PS3 BROWSER HISTORY!!!!

 

 

Now I'm starting to worry *gulp*



silicon said:
rocketpig said:

Is that this security breach was a server-side flaw. "Hacking" a PS3 shouldn't give anyone access to critical PSN information any more than hacking a computer or install of Firefox would give you access to Amazon's customer database.

The tools to defend against this type of attack have been available for years. I can build a secure e-commerce store in a matter of hours and get it locked down to prevent this type of information breach using off-the-shelf software. Why can't Sony do the same on their PROPRIETARY system?

No matter whether you think Sony was in the right over the Geohotz fiasco, they royally screwed the pooch on this one.

And that is no one's fault but their own. They deserve every bit of bad press they're going to get over this.

Is there anything that's hack proof?

No, but if you don't follow industry best practices it is negligence, which looks very likely given how bad the security and networks were implemented.



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I don't think people are missing that... so much as just, disregarding that.



imaprettyhotguy said:
rocketpig said:

Is that this security breach was a server-side flaw. "Hacking" a PS3 shouldn't give anyone access to critical PSN information any more than hacking a computer or install of Firefox would give you access to Amazon's customer database.

The tools to defend against this type of attack have been available for years. I can build a secure e-commerce store in a matter of hours and get it locked down to prevent this type of information breach using off-the-shelf software. Why can't Sony do the same on their PROPRIETARY system?

No matter whether you think Sony was in the right over the Geohotz fiasco, they royally screwed the pooch on this one.

And that is no one's fault but their own. They deserve every bit of bad press they're going to get over this.

Can you do it on a massive amount of worldwide servers that were built half a decade ago? Didn't think so, and I'm pretty sure whoever got into psn could easily get past whatever defences you can make 

This has been called "The biggest theft of personal information in history."

So the... "It's just what happens" arguement looks kinda silly.



dsister said:

Stating the truth makes you an Xbox fanboy! 

*tracking*

So THAT'S why the 360 is so unpopular.



Darc Requiem said:

I'm dumbfounded by Sony's ineptitude. I can't believe PSN has been down or near a week. What the hell kind of security do they have? I'm glad Portal 2 gives access to the PC and Mac versions of the game.

Really the sad thing is.. Portal 2 shouldn't be down anyway thanks to steam integration.

I mean, your using the PC servers with Portal 2.  There is zero reason PSN should be involved at all in that.



pitzy272 said:
badgenome said:
Jdevil3 said:

To think this all started with some Custom Firmware...

Who would've thought CFW would result into PSN data being compromised? :P

Who would've thought that Sony would go to war against hackers without taking measures against being hacked?

(Anyone who is familiar with Sony, of course.)

Badgenome, I've never figured it out...do you like Sony or hate them? lol

What he likes is one liners.

And god bless him for that.