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PS3 will never catch the 360 and heres why!

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ethomaz said:

No way dude... EMEAA Japan > Americas.

PS3 will outsold all home consoles this year.

It's already leading by  a good margin.

* Note Wii is overtracked this year because Nintendo shipped just 1.4 million.

actually, if we are talking about home consoles, EMEAA & Japan is about equal to America.

Total console sales 

EMEAA & Japan = 96.2

America = 91.3

With VGchartz being aproximate (around 10%)  it is actually a statisticall tie.  So basically, if Xbox continues to dominate in America, it will make it really hard for the ps3 to surpass it.  Not impossible, just hard.  

Right now, xbox isn't doing that well in EMEAA and Japan and PS3 isn't doing well in America.  With both markets being about equal... you see where I'm going?  Right now it is pretty balanced out.  Something drastic needs to happen to tip the scales, and not a price drop.  Those only give a temporary boost.  By drastic I mean like next gen system being released.  Kind of like the project cafe and obviously any next gen consoles from sony or MS.  

It will be interesting to see what kind of impact project cafe will have on these two consoles.  Historically, the last gen competing consoles get a bit of a boost when a new console comes out.  Usually because of the constrained stock and unavailability of the new product drives customers to the old one.  



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richardhutnik said:
thismeintiel said:

There's really nothing that can stop the PS3 from outselling the 360 now.  A $199 SKU, Kinect, and a new Slim model couldn't stop it.  I guess if  MS wants to take a loss and start selling each 360 for $99, that would work, but I doubt they or their investors would be happy with that.  Whoever cuts the price first, I'm guessing MS, it will most likely be a $50 cut (to $249), while the basic 360 will probably stay at $199 (possibly dropping to $179).  Then Sony will respond with their own $50 cut.  The 360 will still be outsold by the PS3, since any cut will favor Sony more.  There's just more demand for the PS3 and it will be the first time ever a PS3 would be available for so cheap.  In fact, I predict that the PS3 will probably start selling on par with the 360 even in Americas once the price hits $249, and will begin to outsell it weekly once it hits $199.

Something magical about a $50 price cut that is going to make that happen?  Is there something historically where the $250 price barrier leads to large increases in sales?  You argument at $199 presumes that the 360 won't get a price cut.  Why do you presume Sony moving won't also have Microsoft matching?  What is being demonstrated is that, in the Americas, when the PS3 and 360 are the same price, the 360 outsells it.  The converse is true in Europe.  As far as Japan goes, it is a lost cause for Microsoft at this point.

The joker in the mix is the next Nintendo console, and whatever it does.

You forget that since 2008, the 360 has ALWAYS had a cheaper SKU than the PS3.  And depsite that Basic and Pro SKU the PS3 has still been able to take back EMEAA and still stayed ahead in Japan.  Like I stated before, there's just more demad for the PS3, but price has always held it back.  It jumped a big hurdle when it lowered to $299 and will only continue to make up ground with further price cuts, regardless if MS cuts likewise. 



ROFLMAO!!!!!

See this is why Im so exited for ps3 to drop price, just imagine the looks on your face when ps3 sales explodes again! XD



Umm you might be right, but with a 1 year head start I would hope and pray that it can keep its lead. If you and I were to race around the world, yet you were given a ONE YEAR head start... I honestly hope you would win the race. Especially if it was a competetive race. If we ended up finishing at the same time or close to it, I would bet most would say you pretty much lost the race. Same goes for the 360 and it's full 1 year head start... It has barely managed to hold onto that lead, thus, some (if not most) would consider it not all that impressive. You mention America, even though some of the best and most intuitive games come from Japan. It has lead in American largely due to it's cheap price bundled with Kinect. 



Raider84 said:

Umm you might be right, but with a 1 year head start I would hope and pray that it can keep its lead. If you and I were to race around the world, yet you were given a ONE YEAR head start... I honestly hope you would win the race. Especially if it was a competetive race. If we ended up finishing at the same time or close to it, I would bet most would say you pretty much lost the race. Same goes for the 360 and it's full 1 year head start... It has barely managed to hold onto that lead, thus, some (if not most) would consider it not all that impressive. You mention America, even though some of the best and most intuitive games come from Japan. It has lead in American largely due to it's cheap price bundled with Kinect. 

I would argue against that point very strongly.  Japans game developers are in decline.  And it's cheap price bundled with Kinect is the same price as the ps3, so that is a weird argument.  



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leo-j said:
richardhutnik said:
thismeintiel said:

There's really nothing that can stop the PS3 from outselling the 360 now.  A $199 SKU, Kinect, and a new Slim model couldn't stop it.  I guess if  MS wants to take a loss and start selling each 360 for $99, that would work, but I doubt they or their investors would be happy with that.  Whoever cuts the price first, I'm guessing MS, it will most likely be a $50 cut (to $249), while the basic 360 will probably stay at $199 (possibly dropping to $179).  Then Sony will respond with their own $50 cut.  The 360 will still be outsold by the PS3, since any cut will favor Sony more.  There's just more demand for the PS3 and it will be the first time ever a PS3 would be available for so cheap.  In fact, I predict that the PS3 will probably start selling on par with the 360 even in Americas once the price hits $249, and will begin to outsell it weekly once it hits $199.

Something magical about a $50 price cut that is going to make that happen?  Is there something historically where the $250 price barrier leads to large increases in sales?  You argument at $199 presumes that the 360 won't get a price cut.  Why do you presume Sony moving won't also have Microsoft matching?  What is being demonstrated is that, in the Americas, when the PS3 and 360 are the same price, the 360 outsells it.  The converse is true in Europe.  As far as Japan goes, it is a lost cause for Microsoft at this point.

The joker in the mix is the next Nintendo console, and whatever it does.


two years ago, posting something as misinformed as that would get in a lot of trouble on this site..

around half the posts on this topic are far more "misinformed"  than that one was. Yes the 360 has a sku cheaper than the cheapest ps3 sku. It also has skus equally expensive.

I never understood why in this site ps3 exclusive sequels are huge console movers, 360 sequels "do nothing" despite the fact that 360 hardware often gets more significant boosts weekly on the releases. 

Someone posted that the kinect is just a fad. It has sold to 1/5 of the xbox 360's userbase in one holiday season, with 2 notable titles, neither of which are anything extrordinary, at a price that when first reaveled caused most of the community to instantly write off as a failure that will sell next to nothing. For 2011 it has sold better than any hd game, including a few "huge" ps3 exclusives. Yes quite the failure fad.

In 4 months the ps3 has sold 3.2mil and is leading the 360 by 500k. Last year by 4/17/10 the ps3 had sold 3.7mil and was leading the xbox 360 by 1.2mil and the 360 nearly caught up for the year. The holidays of course might not pan out the same way, but strictly comparing to last year, the ps3 is having a bad year so far in 2011, while the 360 is having a better year than last year. 





 

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i agree with gergroy

the only Japanese game i like is TEKKEN 3



I trust no one, not even myself.

"killed the ps3"? the ps3 isnt dead... lol



I trust no one, not even myself.



 

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