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Grimes said:
ssj12 said:
IMU1808 said:

Then comes the part where SONY starts charging for PSN to pay for all of this crap and make a more secure network.


charging wont help anything, do you have any idea how many people bypass XBL's security daily and not get caught? at least hundreds, if not a couple thousand at minimum.

 

If you have details of large scale security breaches, I'd like to hear it. I'm not talking about individual account theft or game cheating, but things that can break the entire system. Because those are two different animals.

no idea about large scale, but there are people with 100% banned consoles playing right now on banned accounts. Microsoft knows of it, and every update blocks the new exploits, but even they know they can't stop everyone, and obviously they don't really care.



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ssj12 said:
Grimes said:
ssj12 said:
IMU1808 said:

Then comes the part where SONY starts charging for PSN to pay for all of this crap and make a more secure network.


charging wont help anything, do you have any idea how many people bypass XBL's security daily and not get caught? at least hundreds, if not a couple thousand at minimum.

 

If you have details of large scale security breaches, I'd like to hear it. I'm not talking about individual account theft or game cheating, but things that can break the entire system. Because those are two different animals.

no idea about large scale, but there are people with 100% banned consoles playing right now on banned accounts. Microsoft knows of it, and every update blocks the new exploits, but even they know they can't stop everyone, and obviously they don't really care.

That's completely different. It's like comparing shoplifting to bank robbery.



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

Grimes said:
ssj12 said:
Grimes said:
ssj12 said:
IMU1808 said:

Then comes the part where SONY starts charging for PSN to pay for all of this crap and make a more secure network.


charging wont help anything, do you have any idea how many people bypass XBL's security daily and not get caught? at least hundreds, if not a couple thousand at minimum.

 

If you have details of large scale security breaches, I'd like to hear it. I'm not talking about individual account theft or game cheating, but things that can break the entire system. Because those are two different animals.

no idea about large scale, but there are people with 100% banned consoles playing right now on banned accounts. Microsoft knows of it, and every update blocks the new exploits, but even they know they can't stop everyone, and obviously they don't really care.

That's completely different. It's like comparing shoplifting to bank robbery.


both effect the flow of money, both have a different level effect, but they both effect the same thing.



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ssj12 said:
Grimes said:

That's completely different. It's like comparing shoplifting to bank robbery.


both effect the flow of money, both have a different level effect, but they both effect the same thing.

It's quite different. Breaches at the root level are far more serious that breaches at the user level. It's a security nightmare when a root account is hacked, not so much when a user account is hacked.



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

Grimes said:
ssj12 said:
Grimes said:

That's completely different. It's like comparing shoplifting to bank robbery.


both effect the flow of money, both have a different level effect, but they both effect the same thing.

It's quite different. Breaches at the root level are far more serious that breaches at the user level.


Well, wouldnt being about to play a banned console on a network be a high level security breach? It would mean that a user is tapping into the network's mySQL databases and reworking them to ignore their console's banned status. That is kind of a higher level hack no matter how your looking at it because they are injecting the network with a bypass script.



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trasharmdsister12 said:
Branko2166 said: 

Maybe like this?

I don't think I've ever been left so speechless by a video.


ya, lets throw technical lingo out and hope people are idiots and dont have a clue what they are saying! brilliant, typical TV....



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ssj12 said:
Grimes said:
ssj12 said:
Grimes said:

That's completely different. It's like comparing shoplifting to bank robbery.


both effect the flow of money, both have a different level effect, but they both effect the same thing.

It's quite different. Breaches at the root level are far more serious that breaches at the user level.


Well, wouldnt being about to play a banned console on a network be a high level security breach? It would mean that a user is tapping into the network's mySQL databases and reworking them to ignore their console's banned status. That is kind of a higher level hack no matter how your looking at it because they are injecting the network with a bypass script.

If that system is isolated to the gaming components, the I would consider it less serious than something that compromises personal data or purchasing systems.



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

Grimes said:
ssj12 said:
Grimes said:
ssj12 said:
Grimes said:

That's completely different. It's like comparing shoplifting to bank robbery.


both effect the flow of money, both have a different level effect, but they both effect the same thing.

It's quite different. Breaches at the root level are far more serious that breaches at the user level.


Well, wouldnt being about to play a banned console on a network be a high level security breach? It would mean that a user is tapping into the network's mySQL databases and reworking them to ignore their console's banned status. That is kind of a higher level hack no matter how your looking at it because they are injecting the network with a bypass script.

If that system is isolated to the gaming components, the I would consider it less serious than something that compromises personal data or purchasing systems.

well, I think that the banned consoles can purchase things off the marketplace... but thats about it.

Still if a user can get into the mySQL databases with a script injection they could easily recode it to steal data as well.



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ssj12 said:
Grimes said:

If that system is isolated to the gaming components, the I would consider it less serious than something that compromises personal data or purchasing systems.

well, I think that the banned consoles can purchase things off the marketplace... but thats about it.

Still if a user can get into the mySQL databases with a script injection they could easily recode it to steal data as well.


Are you speculating or do you have actual evidence as to what risk is posed?



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

trasharmdsister12 said:
ssj12 said:
trasharmdsister12 said:
Branko2166 said: 

Maybe like this?

I don't think I've ever been left so speechless by a video.


ya, lets throw technical lingo out and hope people are idiots and dont have a clue what they are saying! brilliant, typical TV....

Wait.. what?! Ahh man... I thought I was helping out the PS Community when I made this:


ya... i really think she was meaning a full gui interface, not a popup with a button that probably isn't properly coded to track ips because VB is extremely limited.



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