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We have a new Suikoden at last! ^.^ Even if this turns out to bein the same vein as Tierkreis, atleast the series is not dead! I say buy the game and support the series. I believe that is what will get us a Suikoden VI. However, that is just my opinion. If you are not happy with this new game, or you are concerned about the future of our beloved series, then I say keep campaigning with Konami! Wether you support buying this new game, or not, I think it is still great if our voices continue to be heard at Konami.

There is still much to be done. Below are some emails you can try to hit Konami with your ideas and expressions. I have also included a detailed way in which to contact the Konami executives themselves.

You could ask for Suikoden VI to be set in the main Suikoden world, a Sucession Wars Suikoden, Suikoden II on PSN, Suikoden I on PSN in Europe, a translation of the Suikoden manga novels, releasing a Suikoden bundles collection, perhaps even in HD. You could beg Konami to bring back Yoshitaka Murayama and Miki Higashino. The point is that the emails that you write are yours, not mine or anyone elses. You can write whatever it is about Suikoden that you are passionate about. Put your heart into it. The more of us that write to Konami (especially down the executives route) the more chance that we will be listened too. Good luck!

KC

support@konami.de
m_korea@konami.com
kdeonline@konami.com
en_support@konami-europe.net
konami@supportcenteronline.com
support@konami.com
konami-info@konami.com
customersupport@kde-us.com



Okay guys, heres something we can (and should) all do. Go to this website and create an account: http://www.spoke.com/

Once registered, type Konami in the 'find - a company' section at the top right. You should get this list:

Konami Corporation http://www.konami.co.jp 212
Konami Gaming Inc http://www.konamigaming.com 144
Konami Digital Entertainment 23
Konami Of America http://www.konamiusa.com 35
Konami of Europe http://www.games.konami-europe.com 5
KONAMI Global http://www.konami.net 1
Konami Of America Inc. http://www.konami.com

Clicking on each comapny gives you a list of employees (and their positions). Clicking on the 'see all' tab will give you a list of the employees that you can mail.

The only real companies worth contacting here are:

Konami Coorperation
Konami Of America
and Konami Digital Entertainment


You get a limit of only 3 emails to send with a free Spoke account so choose them wisely. You are probably better contacting Konami Cooperation as that is the Japanese counterpart, but you are maybe better translating your emails if you can. I have had a few amazing responses through doing this. If you have more than one email account then you can register again to get another 3 mails.

If more of us do this, we are sure to create some notice.
Please spread the word to your friends and fellow Suikoden fans.



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I want a Suikoden 6 too, Tierkreis was a nice DS game but I want a proper game from the series. But two words about Konami: They suck!



4 was shit, dut damn, 5 was an awesome game. 6 cant come soon enough. Hope the one on Vita will be good.



 

I feel its time to update things here.

I should tell you that www.spoke.com is now an archived version of the original website. In order to follow my instructions for contacting Konami through Spoke, please go to center.spoke.com

 

The ''Suikoden Campiagn'' has been modest at best for my part, as far as Konami is concerned. I have been trying to get in contact with many Konami employees (mostly from Konami America), ranging from Quality Assurance Testers to Lead Developers, to see if they can help us with our cause. I have sent out messages to over 300 employees, speaking directly with atleast 50 and with ''assurances'' of help from around 10. That is really all I've been doing to try and strengthen ties with Konami.

Most of my energy has been spent gathering my support and ''potential recruits'' in order to reach Konami with higher numbers. I've spoken with almost 1000 fellow fans (so far) to see if they have interest emaling Konami about the future of the Suikoden series. I have no idea how many of them will do so..

However I am greatly pleased at the reaction I have gained thus far. Even if 1/4 of those people email Konami, I would be elated! Hell, even if a small fraction, say 50, of those fellow fans decide to hit Konami with emails - then thats still 50 more emails than Konami is used to recieving about the Suikoden series.

I can write as many well worded emails as I please to Konami. But I believe Konami will not heed those words utill they are coming from a multitude of people. Keep up the good work everyone who has contributed!

With that said, here is the current email that I have sent around Konami. I understand that I may recieve critcism for this email, as I am seen to be taking on the title of ''elected speaker'' for the whole of the Suikoden fandom, as well as some other potential extreme sentences. However, I assure you that I represent the majority of voices of the Suikoden fandom that I have spoken too. Not only that, but I sent around a scaled down version of this email back in November. But due to the lame responses I recieved, I decided to use more powerfull wording this time...



Dear Sir/Madam,


It is my sincerest hope that this email does not get brushed aside or mishandled by busy customer service desk agents. I hope this email finds the right people.


I am writing to you with extreme satisfaction about the announcement of the new Suikoden game. It is great to know that the series is not dead! I am very gratefull and would like to thank you for not giving up on the series, or its fans. Thankyou!!


However, there is still much concern amongst fans over the future of our beloved series. Most fans are anxious to see a main installment Suikoden set back on the familiar Suikoden world that we all know and love (and not in some random world within the Suikoden 'Infinity'). It is far too early to make snap judgements based on Genso Suikoden: Tsumugareshi Hyakunen no Toki's
recent release but the vast majority of fans seem pretty dissapointed that this new game is not set somewhere within the familiar geography of Suikoden, as was the case with Suikoden Tierkries.
I understand that it simply may not be economicaly feasible for Konami to release a main Suikoden title, nor give the series the true attention that it deserves, at this present time. Nevertheless, I do hope that your biggest stakeholders, your fans, have been listened to.


As may already be to your attention, there has been quite a sizeable campaign, here in the West, amongst Suikoden fans to help Konami see the size and dedication of our fanbase. We hope that our campaigning will show Konami not to give up on the Suikoden series. We feel it is entirely necessary to establish a relationship with Konami in order that both the fans and Konami alike can properly profit from the Suikoden series, in the future. What I mean by this is for Konami to listen to the collective voice of the Suikoden fandom in order to create games that not only satisfy the loyal fanbase but also bring in new fans. Therefore the fans are profiting out of this by playing enjoyable games (the kind of game/s they want to see) and Konami will profit out of increased sales. I have been at the forefront of this campaign since the beggining and believe there is still much to do, even with a new Suikoden just released on February 9th. We believe that, together, both the fandom and Konami can achieve this!




Far from telling Konami how to run itself, I am instead proposing some suggestions (below) that the majority of Suikoden fans, both inside and outside of Japan, are wishing for.



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1. For Konami to make a main installment Suikoden, either set during ''The Succession Wars'' or after Suikoden III. Most fans want to see the Suikoden storyline progress and therefore be set in a timeline after the events of Suikoden III. However, many fans fear that a game set after SIII (most likely in Harmonia) would/should be the last and final Suikoden in the series. Therefore, it has been suggested that a Suikoden game set during The Succession Wars would be an excelent choice that would help extend the life of the series. Not only that, but it would also give Konami an ideal opportunity to experiment creating a new main title Suikoden before venturing towards Harmonia. A game set during The Succession Wars would also highly excite, please and appease old fans of the series whilst bringing in new ones. However, the most important point to consider here (as is agreed amongst all fans) is for Konami to set the next Suikoden game within the main Suikoden world and familiar timeline.


2. If Konami are to continue making spin off Suikoden games, then for those games to be explore the normal Suikoden geography. The geography of the main Suikoden world is so huge that, even with many new Suikoden installments, it is unlikely to be explored fully. Therefore, most fans see little sense in venturing off onto new planets entirely. Why make a Suikoden exploring the Infinity when you can explore Kanakan?




3. Suikoden II on PSN and XBL worldwide. This really should not cost Konami too much money and most fans are confused as to why this has not been done already.




4. Suikoden I on PSN and XBL worldwide. As you know, this has already been done in Japan and North America on PSN. It has already been translated for the American market so why not branch out and make it available worldwide? Even if only in English, Konami is surely going to profit from making Suikoden I available to other English speaking countries.




5. A Suikoden collections bundle containing all games and, therefore, making them available again worldwide. Even if it was a download only package, I'm sure this would not be too expensive and/or hard for Konami to achieve. Many would love to see HD remakes also (much in the same vein as what is being done with the Metal Gear Solid series). This would also allow players in Europe to purchase Suikoden III legally which I'm sure both Konami and the fans would prefer.




6. Translation of the original Suikoden manga novels. Perhaps a costly adventure for Konami achieve. But it would also be a great way to advertise a new Suikoden game, re-make or re-release. Adverts could be placed at the back of such novels. Also, new Suikoden games could come with adverts of the novels.




7. Attempt to bring back Yoshitaka Murayama and Miki Higashino. Perhaps the most important point to consider. Most fans feel the game has ''lost its way'' since the departure of Mr Murayama. Mr Murayama was the mastermind behind the original Suikodens as well as the man who created such an epic storyline. Mr Murayama no doubt has much more of the Suikoden story in his mind. He could help steer the series back on track as well as unlocking key mysteries within the storyline. I understand he is working freelance now, Konami really should make him an offer he can't refuse. Ms Higashino, also, has been sorely missed. Between these two members of staff (Murayama and Higashino), a Suikoden feel was created which the Suikoden world has been lacking ever since. Although most fans are highly impressed with Norikazu Miura's work, it would be a wise move to bring Miki Higashino back to Konami. Even if Ms Higashino and Mr Miura worked together to compose the Suikoden soundtracks.


8. For the Suikoden fandom to be contacted by a Konami representative after the release of every new Suikoden game. From
there, we could be asked what we liked about the game, what we did not like, what we think needs improvement and what we expect from future releases of the series.
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I highlighted point 8. as I believe that this is the most important point for Konami to take note of, out of everything suggested within this email. If a spokesman from Konami can speak and listen to the fans on this level, then much can be achieved to please the Suikoden fandom, and to help create games which are profitable to Konami. This has only been done once in the entire 16 years of Suikoden existence, just prior to the release of Suikoden Tierkreis. However, the fans felt that the questions asked were not answered to the fans satisfaction. Instead, it seemed that Konami used the opportunity to advetise Tierkreis and paint the game in a brighter light. However, we are all very gratefull to Konami for taking the time and consideration to communicate with the fans. We ask that you please continue this trend. Listen to the fans and properly deal with any suggestions and concerns as well as passing those suggestions, concerns, hopes and fears onto the relevant creative staff members and executives at Konami Japan.


I know this whole email seems like alot to ask but I'm sure Konami have, and are, considering such options. However, if done correctly i.e. marketed very well and advertised properly, as well as fan contribution to ensure such ventures recieve the proper attention that they deserve, then Suikoden could end up being very profitable for Konami. Of course, the fans would profit from this as well ...which would do much to appease the thus far irratated Suikoden fandom. If nothing is to come of this email, please atleast fully consider point 8. ....I beg you.


Please bear in mind that I do not speak for myself and myself only. This email represents the collective voice of the whole of the Suikoden fandom. Both inside and outside of Japan.




Please let me know if my ideas resonate with you.




I thank you for your due time and consideration.




Kind Regards,




Chris Holmes (KC_MCDOHL on Suikosource)




(and the entire Western and Eastern Suikoden Fan Base)



A new Suikoden just came out on the PSP this week. It should be localized.



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I didnt include that because I understand it might not be financially feasible for Konami to release it over seas (although I hope they do).



Hello everyone!

You guys should totaly head on over to the Suikoden Day page if you are interested. Looks like its gonna be an even more exciting event this year :)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/318166544886315/

KC



Hello everyone!

Just to let you all know, the Suikoden Revival Movement is now officialy launched. This will be the main page where all fans can help to revive the Suikoden franchise. I aim to unite all other similar movements so we are all under the same banner. We also have help from Kotaku.com as well as some potential to work with Operation Rainfall and other sources.

Please join and spread the word as much as you can! :)



https://www.facebook.com/SuikodenRevival



how about the legend of dragoon???



 

Icyedge said:
4 was shit, dut damn, 5 was an awesome game. 6 cant come soon enough. Hope the one on Vita will be good.


There is none in the vita? I dislike this alot from Vita fans, where they start making up games for the Vita that arent real. There was one for the PSP that doesnt seem to be beeing brought over.

It was developed by lvl 5 aswell and it was also a spin-off and not main series.

It didnt sell very well though. Around 150k units i think.