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Carl on 22 April 2011
RolStoppable said:

Sony doesn't even have to do things right, all they need to do is drop the price of the PS3 and they aren't going to run into any problems.

Microsoft's attempts to market the Xbox 360 as family friendly are going to backfire in Europe, because it's going to make them lose more potential customers than they can possibly gain from it. Seriously, which self-respecting teenager or young male is going to purchase a console that is played by females? That's the main market for Microsoft and Sony and MS is the one who is putting those people off.

Microsoft will stay ahead in America, but Europe and Japan will easily offset that for Sony.

By right, I mean don't cut the price until after MS have done.

They don't want to get into a price war, because they can't really win that... To make the coming pricecut as good as it can be, they need to cut the price after MS have done.

Microsoft are trying to dip into Nintendo's "casual" pie. I actually feel that a Wii pricecut, if followed up by compelling SW, can harm the 360 quite a bit in America until the 360/Kinect gets a pricecut.



                            

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psrock on 22 April 2011
RolStoppable said:
Carl2291 said:

The drop between September 09 and May '10 is amazing really. 4.8 Million within 9 Months.

Makes me wonder what could happen this Year if Sony do things right again.

Sony doesn't even have to do things right, all they need to do is drop the price of the PS3 and they aren't going to run into any problems.

Microsoft's attempts to market the Xbox 360 as family friendly are going to backfire in Europe, because it's going to make them lose more potential customers than they can possibly gain from it. Seriously, which self-respecting teenager or young male is going to purchase a console that is played by females? That's the main market for Microsoft and Sony and MS is the one who is putting those people off.

Microsoft will stay ahead in America, but Europe and Japan will easily offset that for Sony.

lol, I love the references if anyone can catch it.



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hatmoza on 22 April 2011
psrock said:
RolStoppable said:
Carl2291 said:

The drop between September 09 and May '10 is amazing really. 4.8 Million within 9 Months.

Makes me wonder what could happen this Year if Sony do things right again.

Sony doesn't even have to do things right, all they need to do is drop the price of the PS3 and they aren't going to run into any problems.

Microsoft's attempts to market the Xbox 360 as family friendly are going to backfire in Europe, because it's going to make them lose more potential customers than they can possibly gain from it. Seriously, which self-respecting teenager or young male is going to purchase a console that is played by females? That's the main market for Microsoft and Sony and MS is the one who is putting those people off.

Microsoft will stay ahead in America, but Europe and Japan will easily offset that for Sony.

lol, I love the references if anyone can catch it.

I wanted to post 'can't tell if serious' image myself after I noticed the Tretton reference



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Boutros on 22 April 2011
Pavolink said:
Boutros said:

Comparing the Wii with the GC is a desperate move lol

Why? Aren't both consoles from the same company at the same time in their respect life?

Yes but it's not because the Wii is doing better than the GC that it is doing good.



Nsanity on 22 April 2011
kowenicki said:
psrock said:
kowenicki said:
psrock said:

And the PS3 still rides on top. I have never seen a third place console do this before. Please Sony cut to the PS3 to $199, I would love to see the scrambling.


You have to look at the bigger picture...

Yes PS3 is doing relatively well at the moment... relative to the competition that is.

But this is the first genuine 3 console race and never has a first placed console dropped so hard before.  Those are the two factors most significant this gen.  Last gen the 2nd and 3rd placed console were simply fighting over scraps, with the GC losing out.  This gen there has been much toing and froing.

To be fair, You and many others had expected Kinect to ride the 360 over the PS3 for the rest of these Gen. So, yes I am looking at the big picture. While the 360 hasbecome the most balanced system being able to attract both casual and core gamers in large numbers. The PS3 has stand ground in the face of the fastest selling device ever. That's the big picture.


I see... so you have changed the argument now and you see one single aspect of current sales as the big bicture....?

No.  The big picture is this:

The PS3 sitting in third has manged to be the best weekly performer recently.... unheard of.

The Wii sales have collapsed faster than any other 1st place console ever, so much so that it is either 3rd or second every week now.... unheard of.

The 360 is the oldest console and yet is the only console able to show increased YOY sales... in year 6... unheard of.

Now THATS the big picture.

But you want to concentrate and a pretty weak attempt at knocking Kinect... yet again.

Well said.



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mibuokami on 22 April 2011
hatmoza said:
psrock said:
RolStoppable said:
Carl2291 said:

The drop between September 09 and May '10 is amazing really. 4.8 Million within 9 Months.

Makes me wonder what could happen this Year if Sony do things right again.

Sony doesn't even have to do things right, all they need to do is drop the price of the PS3 and they aren't going to run into any problems.

Microsoft's attempts to market the Xbox 360 as family friendly are going to backfire in Europe, because it's going to make them lose more potential customers than they can possibly gain from it. Seriously, which self-respecting teenager or young male is going to purchase a console that is played by females? That's the main market for Microsoft and Sony and MS is the one who is putting those people off.

Microsoft will stay ahead in America, but Europe and Japan will easily offset that for Sony.

lol, I love the references if anyone can catch it.

I wanted to post 'can't tell if serious' image myself after I noticed the Tretton reference

The best troll learn ninjutsu and subterfurge and become.... NINJA TROLL!

Seriously you always have to keep your guard up around Rol or he'll butt-seck you so hard while you're not looking and leave you used and abused for the internet sharp to circle and finish off.




LivingMetal on 22 April 2011
kowenicki said:
zgamer5 said:
kowenicki said:
psrock said:
kowenicki said:
psrock said:

And the PS3 still rides on top. I have never seen a third place console do this before. Please Sony cut to the PS3 to $199, I would love to see the scrambling.


You have to look at the bigger picture...

Yes PS3 is doing relatively well at the moment... relative to the competition that is.

But this is the first genuine 3 console race and never has a first placed console dropped so hard before.  Those are the two factors most significant this gen.  Last gen the 2nd and 3rd placed console were simply fighting over scraps, with the GC losing out.  This gen there has been much toing and froing.

To be fair, You and many others had expected Kinect to ride the 360 over the PS3 for the rest of these Gen. So, yes I am looking at the big picture. While the 360 hasbecome the most balanced system being able to attract both casual and core gamers in large numbers. The PS3 has stand ground in the face of the fastest selling device ever. That's the big picture.


I see... so you have changed the argument now and you see one single aspect of current sales as the big bicture....?

No.  The big picture is this:

The PS3 sitting in third has manged to be the best weekly performer recently.... unheard of.

The Wii sales have collapsed faster than any other 1st place console ever, so much so that it is either 3rd or second every week now.... unheard of.

The 360 is the oldest console and yet is the only console able to show increased YOY sales... in year 6... unheard of.

Now THATS the big picture.

But you want to concentrate and a pretty weak attempt at knocking Kinect... yet again.

why do you defend kinect? is it because its made by ms? your a core gamer you shoudt like motion controls, thats why you dont have a wii.

even if i defend move sometimes its because it gave me a nice kz3 experience, but other then that i despise motion controls.


1.  I do have a wii

2.  I am not a core gamer, I am a gamer... 

3.  I am not defending anything... just explaining the current situation.

 

Both of you are right so kiss and make up.  The three points you made are correct.  The point zgamer5 made about Kinect is correct as well which is included in the big picture.  So let's not deny any of this.



yo_john117 on 22 April 2011

Wow Halo Reach just keeps going down

Anyways here's the GT5 v HR table.

 Week  GT5 Halo Reach  Week Difference  Cumulative Difference
 1  2,344,932 4,049,971  -1,705,039  -1,705,039
 2  744,116 817,905  -73,789  -1,778,828
 3  675,112  418,873  256,239  -1,522,589
 4  624,977  257,642  367,335  -1,155,254
 5  585,254  149,626  435,628  -716,626
 6  312,094  110,909  201,185  -515,441
 7  171,438  107,812  63,626  -451,815
 8  120,100  116,054  4,046  -447,769
 9  91,157  123,184  -32,027  -479,796
 10  73,757  119,830  -46,073  -525,869
 11  63,025  179,251  -116,226  -642,095
 12  52,727  156,143  -103,416  -745,511
 13  61,928  217,920  -155,992  -901,503
 14  55,184  262,990  -207,806  -1,109,309
 15  37,402  308,665  -271,263  -1,380,572
 16  28,972  156,456  -127,484  -1,508,056
 17  20,840  58,372  -37,532  -1,545,588
 18  22,747  40,769  -18,022  -1,563,610
 19  19,441  35,142  -15,701  -1,579,311
 20  18,325  36,114  -17,789  -1,597,100
 21  15,420  39,724  -24,304  -1,621,404
 22    38,323    
 23    41,309    
 24    49,812    
 25    50,272    
 26    49,926    
 27    56,658    
 28    61,577    
 29    62,394    
 30    41,617    
 31    31,275    
 32        
 33        
 34        
 35        
 36        
 37        
 LT  6,138,948  8,239,760    -2,100,812


LivingMetal on 22 April 2011
Nsanity said:
kowenicki said:
psrock said:
kowenicki said:
psrock said:

And the PS3 still rides on top. I have never seen a third place console do this before. Please Sony cut to the PS3 to $199, I would love to see the scrambling.


You have to look at the bigger picture...

Yes PS3 is doing relatively well at the moment... relative to the competition that is.

But this is the first genuine 3 console race and never has a first placed console dropped so hard before.  Those are the two factors most significant this gen.  Last gen the 2nd and 3rd placed console were simply fighting over scraps, with the GC losing out.  This gen there has been much toing and froing.

To be fair, You and many others had expected Kinect to ride the 360 over the PS3 for the rest of these Gen. So, yes I am looking at the big picture. While the 360 hasbecome the most balanced system being able to attract both casual and core gamers in large numbers. The PS3 has stand ground in the face of the fastest selling device ever. That's the big picture.


I see... so you have changed the argument now and you see one single aspect of current sales as the big bicture....?

No.  The big picture is this:

The PS3 sitting in third has manged to be the best weekly performer recently.... unheard of.

The Wii sales have collapsed faster than any other 1st place console ever, so much so that it is either 3rd or second every week now.... unheard of.

The 360 is the oldest console and yet is the only console able to show increased YOY sales... in year 6... unheard of.

Now THATS the big picture.

But you want to concentrate and a pretty weak attempt at knocking Kinect... yet again.

Well said.


No, it wasn't.



yo_john117 on 22 April 2011
CGI-Quality said:
yo_john117 said:

Wow Halo Reach just keeps going down

Anyways here's the GT5 v HR table.

 Week  GT5 Halo Reach  Week Difference  Cumulative Difference
 1  2,344,932 4,049,971  -1,705,039  -1,705,039
 2  744,116 817,905  -73,789  -1,778,828
 3  675,112  418,873  256,239  -1,522,589
 4  624,977  257,642  367,335  -1,155,254
 5  585,254  149,626  435,628  -716,626
 6  312,094  110,909  201,185  -515,441
 7  171,438  107,812  63,626  -451,815
 8  120,100  116,054  4,046  -447,769
 9  91,157  123,184  -32,027  -479,796
 10  73,757  119,830  -46,073  -525,869
 11  63,025  179,251  -116,226  -642,095
 12  52,727  156,143  -103,416  -745,511
 13  61,928  217,920  -155,992  -901,503
 14  55,184  262,990  -207,806  -1,109,309
 15  37,402  308,665  -271,263  -1,380,572
 16  28,972  156,456  -127,484  -1,508,056
 17  20,840  58,372  -37,532  -1,545,588
 18  22,747  40,769  -18,022  -1,563,610
 19  19,441  35,142  -15,701  -1,579,311
 20  18,325  36,114  -17,789  -1,597,100
 21  15,420  39,724  -24,304  -1,621,404
 22    38,323    
 23    41,309    
 24    49,812    
 25    50,272    
 26    49,926    
 27    56,658    
 28    61,577    
 29    62,394    
 30    41,617    
 31    31,275    
 32        
 33        
 34        
 35        
 36        
 37        
 LT  6,138,948  8,239,760    -2,100,812

I'm thinking Reach will settle at 10.5-11 million, GT5 at 10-10.2 million. GT5 will be the 4th best selling in the franchise, while Reach will be the second best selling in it's franchise.

That sounds about right to me (give or take 1 million due to bundles)