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Ail said:


for your 4), i'm definitly convinced that there are plenty of developers out there that would like to play with more powerfull hardware. The question is how many publishers are willing to pay for that. And how much consumers are willing to pay for a little better graphics. ( because even if those new machine can do a lot better graphics, this is going to be expensive...).

Maybe  I don't represent the majority but I really saw the need for a gen after the PS2. However at this time I am quite happy with what the PS3 can provide and I don't really feel like better graphics would make my gaming experience any better ( Heavy Rain totally drew me in without the need for better graphics for example and I don't feel like better graphics is what would improve Assassin's Creed at this point..)


Well some seem unable to get how to do a game without showing off in ever increasing amounts. I don't know the links, but someone in another thread showed that some people wanted even more powerful systems.



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They are plausible, just so you'd believe them. I don't trust any source aside from Nintendo's word at E3. And I'm 100% it'll be different from this, to the absolute core. Aside from the 3DS focus this E3 and the Wii BC, they are both a given.

Most people forget that Nintendo doesn't need 3rd parties. They are about making money, and a lot of it. As long as their strategy pays off monetarily, they will follow it. See the 3DS - great gimmick, outdated hardware, and a high price. Does it remind you of any platform, mm? The ones that need 3rd parties tailor their systems for their interest - see NGP, PS3, 360. All offer different appeal for 3rd party devs (though, it mostly revolves around power). Nintendo makes and breaks their own systems, ever since the NES.



LordTheNightKnight said:
Ail said:


for your 4), i'm definitly convinced that there are plenty of developers out there that would like to play with more powerfull hardware. The question is how many publishers are willing to pay for that. And how much consumers are willing to pay for a little better graphics. ( because even if those new machine can do a lot better graphics, this is going to be expensive...).

Maybe  I don't represent the majority but I really saw the need for a gen after the PS2. However at this time I am quite happy with what the PS3 can provide and I don't really feel like better graphics would make my gaming experience any better ( Heavy Rain totally drew me in without the need for better graphics for example and I don't feel like better graphics is what would improve Assassin's Creed at this point..)


Well some seem unable to get how to do a game without showing off in ever increasing amounts. I don't know the links, but someone in another thread showed that some people wanted even more powerful systems.

I'm a software developer ( not in gaming), of course I always want better hardware to work on ( my 8Gb RAM 8* 3Ghz cores desktop is getting old...lol). heck the new laptop I'm getting in a couple months is almost as powerfull as this 18 months old desktop and will have SDD drive to boot... And did I mention my screen is 30 inch ?

And I'm not bragging, that's just the reality of the industry. As a developer it's just a pleasure to upgrade to better hardware...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Ail said:


for your 4), i'm definitly convinced that there are plenty of developers out there that would like to play with more powerfull hardware. The question is how many publishers are willing to pay for that. And how much consumers are willing to pay for a little better graphics. ( because even if those new machine can do a lot better graphics, this is going to be expensive...).

Maybe  I don't represent the majority but I really saw the need for a gen after the PS2. However at this time I am quite happy with what the PS3 can provide and I don't really feel like better graphics would make my gaming experience any better ( Heavy Rain totally drew me in without the need for better graphics for example and I don't feel like better graphics is what would improve Assassin's Creed at this point..)


Well some seem unable to get how to do a game without showing off in ever increasing amounts. I don't know the links, but someone in another thread showed that some people wanted even more powerful systems.

I'm a software developer ( not in gaming), of course I always want better hardware to work on ( my 8Gb RAM 8* 3Ghz cores desktop is getting old...lol). heck the new laptop I'm getting in a couple months is almost as powerfull as this 18 months old desktop and will have SDD drive to boot... And did I mention my screen is 30 inch ?

And I'm not bragging, that's just the reality of the industry. As a developer it's just a pleasure to upgrade to better hardware...


Not the hardware to work on. The hardware that the games will be on.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

LordTheNightKnight said:
Ail said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Ail said:


for your 4), i'm definitly convinced that there are plenty of developers out there that would like to play with more powerfull hardware. The question is how many publishers are willing to pay for that. And how much consumers are willing to pay for a little better graphics. ( because even if those new machine can do a lot better graphics, this is going to be expensive...).

Maybe  I don't represent the majority but I really saw the need for a gen after the PS2. However at this time I am quite happy with what the PS3 can provide and I don't really feel like better graphics would make my gaming experience any better ( Heavy Rain totally drew me in without the need for better graphics for example and I don't feel like better graphics is what would improve Assassin's Creed at this point..)


Well some seem unable to get how to do a game without showing off in ever increasing amounts. I don't know the links, but someone in another thread showed that some people wanted even more powerful systems.

I'm a software developer ( not in gaming), of course I always want better hardware to work on ( my 8Gb RAM 8* 3Ghz cores desktop is getting old...lol). heck the new laptop I'm getting in a couple months is almost as powerfull as this 18 months old desktop and will have SDD drive to boot... And did I mention my screen is 30 inch ?

And I'm not bragging, that's just the reality of the industry. As a developer it's just a pleasure to upgrade to better hardware...


Not the hardware to work on. The hardware that the games will be on.


well in my case it's similar.



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

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Ail said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Ail said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Ail said:


for your 4), i'm definitly convinced that there are plenty of developers out there that would like to play with more powerfull hardware. The question is how many publishers are willing to pay for that. And how much consumers are willing to pay for a little better graphics. ( because even if those new machine can do a lot better graphics, this is going to be expensive...).

Maybe  I don't represent the majority but I really saw the need for a gen after the PS2. However at this time I am quite happy with what the PS3 can provide and I don't really feel like better graphics would make my gaming experience any better ( Heavy Rain totally drew me in without the need for better graphics for example and I don't feel like better graphics is what would improve Assassin's Creed at this point..)


Well some seem unable to get how to do a game without showing off in ever increasing amounts. I don't know the links, but someone in another thread showed that some people wanted even more powerful systems.

I'm a software developer ( not in gaming), of course I always want better hardware to work on ( my 8Gb RAM 8* 3Ghz cores desktop is getting old...lol). heck the new laptop I'm getting in a couple months is almost as powerfull as this 18 months old desktop and will have SDD drive to boot... And did I mention my screen is 30 inch ?

And I'm not bragging, that's just the reality of the industry. As a developer it's just a pleasure to upgrade to better hardware...


Not the hardware to work on. The hardware that the games will be on.


well in my case it's similar.


My point isn't about the hardware, but them not being able to see how to make games without always pushing hardware.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Nintendo just needs to release a system that is moderately more powerfuly than 360/PS3.

Consumers aren't going to adopt a TV with greater resolution than 1080P for a long time.  The main improvement the next gen needs to provide is more memory  and consistent 1080P at 60hz.  The more memory is clearly needed so consoles can have run games like the PC version of Battlefield 3 with the large maps and multiplayer counts. 

The point of diminishing returns has already arrived in video games.  There isn't much point of 360/PS3 massively improving performance of the PS3 and 360.  It will be too expensive, and games will become too expensive to develop.  I personally think that PS3 and 360 games have been looking great lately and there is only minimal improvements that need to be done on their next gen consoles. 

I'm intersted to see what Nintendo can do.  As I learned this generation, there wasn't too much of a point in owning a PS3 and a 360.  In the next gen I only want to own 1 console-- and I hope Nintendo is powerful enough to fit this demand for me.  I don't want another neglected Wii experience.

In the 6th generation the Playstation 2 was obviously not as powerful as the Xbox, but it still attracted all the great games and stayed the most popular.  I hope Nintendo can duplicate this feat. 



 

Most anticipated games of 2011:

Uncharted 3,Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, Rocksmith

Modern Warfare 3, Super Mario 3D

 

I find the statement about zelda hard to believe.  I think NIntendo will definitely realiease Zelda this year.  They have nothing else to release.




It sounds like Nintendo are gearing up for a frontal assault on the western market. Kind of makes sense at this time, really, as they are definitely very well prepared financially for such an endeavor. I think the strategy is about creating a clear distinction between "real games" and "apps", hence the importance of extra-high production values, high-end hardware and fantastic support from third parties. To put it in the words of Iwata from GDC, it is about creating a solid ecosystem where games are the main focus, rather than "something someone else makes"... or at least that's how Nintendo sees it.

Also, if you think about it, iphone and ipad games are currently still in more direct competition with other mobile platforms. There are a few ipad games that can connect to a TV, but it isn't common enough to be considered a "home console" competitor yet. However, this is something that can very easily change with the right push from Apple (i.e. streaming games to Apple TV, allowing third party controllers, or some other similar endeavor).

In that context, this move can be seen as a sort of "best defense is a good offense" tactic. I don't know if I speak for everybody on this, but from my experience the most compelling iphone and ipad features at the moment are ubiquitous online connectivity (mainly at home) via wifi, and simple apps occasionally. Or in other words, I think alot of people get most of their mileage out of browsing the web from bed and playing simple games on the toilet

If this is the case, then this rumored "tablet controller" could offer just such an experience while in the home (feeding off the main console) and possibly even limited use outside (if Nintendo can get it to work as a general wifi device away from the console). This would then create direct competition with gaming on mobile devices, to the extent that they may end up being too occupied with the battle for their home territory to branch out as a serious competitor in the home console space. The killer-app that Nintendo could offer in this respect imo would be SMS texting* over the cellular network, or some simple way to transfer your phone contacts to an internet messaging service. If they could do that then I suspect some people would even consider having only the one device on them, occasionally.

(*The cost of service to the operator for text messaging is actually extremely cheap, as it relies on spare bandwidth between voice data to send the messages - this doesn't mean cell companies aren't aware of its high value, but, just saying...)

In addition, it also opens the door for many new ideas in gaming and entertainment, as you could take your controller with you to the outside world and gather data that can later be imported into games on the console (like sound clips, textures or even more complicated resources). Not to mention the extent to which it could further integrate gaming into the common life-style (like a continuation of the "pedometer coins" thing on the 3DS) and even become a more widespread social platform of sorts (for example: watching video clips from last night at the bar with the guys on your TV in animal crossing, or something ).

Still, it makes you wonder about the continued viability of the 3DS in such an environment. Perhaps Nintendo will announce it as an optional controller for the home console (even though it only has one analog stick... ).



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Play4Fun said:
  • Square Enix, Capcom, Sega, Konami, Activision, Rockstar/Take Two, Electronic Arts, Namco and Ubisoft all have development kits.
  • They each have at least one game in development for the Wii 2.
  • Expect games to be coming to this system that you would never expect on a Nintendo console.
  • Nintendo is kissing third party ****s with this console.
  • The new Nintendo controller sounds more ridiculous on paper.  When you actually see the thing, it makes a lot more sense from a design standard.
  • Expect Nintendo to roll out the red carpet for third parties so their games don’t get overshadowed.  Nintendo has been preaching to third parties that third parties won’t get screwed this time around, so if you’re expecting a ton of amazing first party games at launch…well…think again.  Nintendo wants a launch that creates confidence in third parties again so expect very few first party games at launch similar to the 3DS.
  • Star Fox is coming.  I can’t say when.  Very good chance that it WONT be at E3.  I am hearing Star Fox is coming for the new Nintendo system, but it is very early in development.
  • Nintendo solved every storage issue a third party could possibly have with the new console.  I don’t know if it’s a harddrive or a different, cheaper way to store data. 
  • Nintendo revamping their WiiWare and virtual console services.  I don’t think it will be called WiiWare anymore. 
  • Almost positive that we’ll be seeing Pikmin in some shape or form.
  • A first person shooter that people love will be ported to the 3DS.  I can’t say what game, but it’s popular among FPS gamers.
  • Expect a crapload of 3DS love at this E3.  The show will be wayyy more 3DS than Wii 2 (Project Cafe).  3DS stuff will be at least 60 percent of the E3 pre-show.
  • Don’t listen to anyone who says new Nintendo console will launch by end of 2011.  They are idiots.  This holiday season is all about the 3DS and Nintendo’s E3 show will focus on that.
  • Don’t expect many games to be shown at E3 for new Nintendo console, but expect all of the key features to be revealed.
  • Nintendo is thinking about launching Zelda: Skyward Sword around the same time as Wii 2 since Wii 2 is backwards compatible with Wii 1 games.  They want to follow the same strategy when they launched Pokemon Black/White when 3DS was coming out.
  • I am 90 percent sure you will not see a Zelda: Skyward Sword port to the Wii 2.  It will remain a Wii 1 game.
  • Nintendo approached Hideo Kojima about the new Nintendo console.  Nintendo and Hideo Kojima have a good relationship with each other.
  • A Resident Evil game is in development for the new Nintendo system.  I don’t know if Capcom is developing an RE spinoff or something part of the “main” Resident Evil series.
  • Retrostudios started working on a Wii 2 game.   It is NOT Metroid.  Retro is done with Metroid.
These rumours seem very reasonable to me.

Yeah I remember hearing that Kojima was interested in the Wii and he would make a game for it. Didn't happen.